Yes, I agree. I absolutely hate, hate, hate vocabulary *lists* and I especially hate when teachers ask students to look up words and write down the definitions. yeeks.
Renee On Feb 18, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Ljackson wrote: > I think of these words as necessary language for the discussion of > content, as important as any other content specific vocabulary. Like > math and science, we have a special 'technical' language that helps us > ground our discussions. But beyond this, we also have to think of the > language within each text and pick our vocabulary battles carefully > and I always fearful when the discussion of vocabualry is reduced to > lists, don't you? My list is certainly not the same need-to-know list > as a on-level third grade student or a langauge delayed five year old. > Perhaps that is what I am saying, much of the vocabulary we need can > be taught on a need-to-know basis, based on the needs of individual > student populations and individual students--not those preconceived > lists fabricated by publishers. > > Lori > > ----- Original message ----- > From: Renee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group > <[email protected]> > Date: 2008, 18, Segunda Of Fevereiro 09:10 > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] literal - inferential for strugglers > >> Lori, >> I agree with you here, very much, AND I would certainly want to make >> sure all students understand the meanings of the following words if I >> expect them to retell a story: >> >> beginning >> problem >> solution >> ending >> character >> setting >> >> I would not teach these words as a "list of vocabulary words" but >> rather through modeling, modeling, modeling, and using them during >> discussion, while checking for understanding. >> >> As for books to choose to teach retelling, for me it would have to be >> a >> book with a clear plot structure with all the above components, even >> if >> the book were very simple. There should be hundreds of them in >> anyone's >> classroom. (OK, dozens of them in some peoples' classrooms who have >> been gleaned by the program police.... but they are there.) >> >> Renee >> >> On Feb 18, 2008, at 5:15 AM, ljackson wrote: >> >>> I don't think we can simplify this discussion to a list of words. >>> One >>> size >>> cannot fit all. I think it is a matter of deeply knowing your >>> students, >>> thinking through each lesson designed with the question, "What >>> language must >>> the child understand to fully benefit from this experience?" It is >>> thoughtful decision making when deciding what vocabulary to plant, >>> careful >>> kid--watching for signs that kids are perplexed by language and I >>> firmly >>> believe it involves the use of rich language in all classroom >>> situations. >>> >>> Lori >>> >>> >>> On 2/18/08 1:11 AM, "Patricia Kimathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What words would you teach a primary groups? >>>> Pat K >>>> >>>> "to be nobody but yourself -- in a world which is doing its best, >>>> night >>>> and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the >>>> hardest >>>> battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting." >>>> >>>> e.e. cummings >>>> >>>> On Feb 16, 2008, at 7:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>> >>>>> they don't have the language to express their thoughts. I have been >>>>> thinking >>>>> that some intensive vocabulary instruction must go hand in hand >>>>> with >>>>> str >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mosaic mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >>>> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >>>> >>>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lori Jackson >>> District Literacy Coach & Mentor >>> Todd County School District >>> Box 87 >>> Mission SD 57555 >>> >>> http:www.tcsdk12.org >>> ph. 605.856.2211 >>> >>> >>> Literacies for All Summer Institute >>> July 17-20. 2008 >>> Tucson, Arizona >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >>> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >>> >>> >> >> "Learning isn't a means to an end; it is an end in itself." >> ~ Robert A. 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