I think of these words as necessary language for the discussion of content, as 
important as any other content specific vocabulary.  Like math and science, we 
have a special 'technical' language that helps us ground our discussions.  But 
beyond this, we also have to think of the language within each text and pick 
our vocabulary battles carefully and I always fearful when the discussion of 
vocabualry is reduced to lists, don't you?  My list is certainly not the same 
need-to-know list as a on-level third grade student or a langauge delayed five 
year old.  Perhaps that is what I am saying, much of the vocabulary we need can 
be taught on a need-to-know basis, based on the needs of individual student 
populations and individual students--not those preconceived lists fabricated by 
publishers.  

Lori

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From: Renee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
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Date: 2008, 18, Segunda Of Fevereiro 09:10
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] literal - inferential for strugglers

> Lori,
> I agree with you here, very much, AND I would certainly want to make  
> sure all students understand the meanings of the following words if I  
> expect them to retell a story:
> 
> beginning
> problem
> solution
> ending
> character
> setting
> 
> I would not teach these words as a "list of vocabulary words" but  
> rather through modeling, modeling, modeling, and using them during  
> discussion, while checking for understanding.
> 
> As for books to choose to teach retelling, for me it would have to be a  
> book with a clear plot structure with all the above components, even if  
> the book were very simple. There should be hundreds of them in anyone's  
> classroom. (OK, dozens of them in some peoples' classrooms who have  
> been gleaned by the program police.... but they are there.)
> 
> Renee
> 
> On Feb 18, 2008, at 5:15 AM, ljackson wrote:
> 
> > I don't think we can simplify this discussion to a list of words.  One  
> > size
> > cannot fit all.  I think it is a matter of deeply knowing your  
> > students,
> > thinking through each lesson designed with the question, "What  
> > language must
> > the child understand to fully benefit from this experience?"  It is
> > thoughtful decision making when deciding what vocabulary to plant,  
> > careful
> > kid--watching for signs that kids are perplexed by language and I  
> > firmly
> > believe it involves the use of rich language in all classroom  
> > situations.
> >
> > Lori
> >
> >
> > On 2/18/08 1:11 AM, "Patricia Kimathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> What words would you teach a primary groups?
> >> Pat K
> >>
> >> "to be nobody but yourself -- in a world which is doing its best,  
> >> night
> >> and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the hardest
> >> battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting."
> >>
> >> e.e. cummings
> >>
> >> On Feb 16, 2008, at 7:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>> they don't have the language to express their thoughts. I have been
> >>> thinking
> >>> that some intensive vocabulary instruction must go hand in hand  with
> >>> str
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