Do you think, at the middle school level, that it is necessary to do a  
"running record"?  When our admin asks for reading levels every 6 weeks or  so, 
the 
middle school teacher get their backs up.  My feeling is that at  the higher 
(R and up, I'm talking Fountas and Pinnell here) readers can read a  passage 
silently and then write a written retelling, followed by some  strategy-based 
questions.  With upwards of 100 students, it is a huge task  to do a running 
record with each child and I don't really think it is necessary  for every 
child...maybe just he strugglers.
 
Leslie
 
 
In a message dated 3/9/2008 2:36:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You  sound like you need a miscue analysis sort of assessment.  The  Goodman's
are the ones to look at, but there are ooodles of folks that have  written
books about it.  Google it.   It is a lengthy  test.  But you don't use it
with everyone.  You use it with the  kids that you know are struggling, but
are unsure why.

I have found  it irreplaceable when I want to know EXACTLY what a student is
doing when  they read.  No IRI or bubble test will tell me this.  I  know
there are folks against it.  But once I know where a kid is  truly
struggling, I can send them to the strategy to help fix it.   THAT is what
will show up on your numbers test.

Good teaching is  what will raise test scores...
Kim

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM,  gina nunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I have to  chime in and agree about the need for multi-assessments.  I have
>  had students who scored high on the SRI  (scholastic reading inventory),  
low
> on the state test, and middle of the road on QRI.   I  use a spread sheet
> that has all the data side by side so I can surmise  who really needs a
> closer looking at.
>
> In regards to  Lori's plea for continuing discussion about middle level
> reading  assessment I would be thrilled to do that.
>
> Moderators-   Do we need to do this off this site?
>
> Our campus is trying to  create an RtI model and of course progress
> monitoring is the hurdle  for us.  QRI, STAR, SRI are all just to identify
> reading  levels....they don't give short term "assessment for learning"
>  information.
>
> You know I am on this list because I am a  believer in MOT and strategy
> work.  But I have to be honest...my  attempt at using Ellin's strategy
> interview bombed.  I just  couldn't squeeze it in, and then I had trouble
> using it in a way that  I could bring to campus meetings.
>
>
> What I think is at  the core of the progress monitoring dilemma is coming
> to agreement on  what you want to assess in reading.  That then tells you of
>  course what you will be assessing on a frequent basis.  I have to speak  
the
> language of the campus committee but I am trying to avoid target  goals like
> will build vocabulary....who decides that  list?
>
> I'll stop before I babble.  Again I'd like to have  this ongoing
> conversation.  Should we find another place to do  it?
>
>
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Sequoia  Middle School
Fresno, California 93702

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