Stephanie,
Where are you in California?
Renee
(Northern California here)

On Jul 7, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Stephanie Sanchez wrote:

> I do agree with part of what you wrote below. Children do need to hear  
> their teachers model the language and point out words within context,  
> however there are populations of children that need explicit  
> vocabulary in isolation.
>
> For instance, my school in California is made of 75% English Language  
> Learners. Most are directly here from Mexico with little or no  
> knowledge of the English language. When reading, there is no context  
> due to so many unknown words. Meaning simple gets completely lost with  
> no ability to use all vocabulary strategies that we teach.
>
> In the case of the teacher's picture strategy your mentioned for the  
> Daily 5 list serv, this would be awesome and well worth the time to  
> spend with my children so that they can be independent readers.They  
> need exposure and visuals so that they can grasp them and use them in  
> class since most likely they will not hear these words being  
> reinforced at home.  However, if the population she is teaching  
> already know the English language, I could see this being a waste of  
> precious time that could be used to dive deeper into reading. But for  
> my population, I am extremely excited to use this strategy and find it  
> highly effective!
>
> :) Stephanie
> 3rd grade/CA
>
> "Waingort Jimenez, Elisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Beverlee,
> I had saved this post to respond to at a later time but never intended  
> to wait a month, as it turns out, to do so.  However, given a recent  
> conversation on the Daily5 listserv it is more appropriate that I am  
> responding now.
>
> There has been a thread on word walls over the last few days on the  
> Daily 5 listserv.  One teacher, specifically, has been describing how  
> she does picture word walls with her students.  The teacher chooses 15  
> words a week from a current reading selection (seems a lot to me) and  
> over a period of 2 - 3 days (seems a long time to spend on somewhat  
> isolated vocabulary instruction) illustrates the meanings of the words  
> while the kids copy her illustrations or create their own as a memory  
> piece for the meaning of the word.  The teacher's illustration, I  
> think, goes on the word wall and the children have a vocabulary folder  
> or notebook into which they insert their week's word pictures.   
> Although, on face value this seems like a worthwhile way to remember  
> vocabulary it seems that an inordinate amount of isolated time is  
> being spent on words to the detriment of the same amount of time being  
> used to read independently.  All of the reviews of the research that  
> I've read say that
>  extensive reading is what produces high levels of vocabulary  
> knowledge.  I think illustrating words is a good strategy to use but  
> it seems that in the example I've described it is being overused.  I  
> think teachers tend to do this sometimes by taking a good idea and  
> turning it into a bad idea by overusing it or making everybody do the  
> same thing regardless of how useful it is to individual learners.  I  
> use big words with my students and then they start using those big  
> words back because we employ them in meaningful contexts with  
> interesting books and focused lessons.  In a previous post I wrote  
> about teaching my students about what a miscue was and then they  
> started pointing out their miscues and mine (a favorite activity as it  
> turned out!)  when they were reading on their own or when I was doing  
> a read aloud.
> Elisa
>
> Elisa Waingort
> Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
> Dalhousie Elementary
> Calgary, Canada
>
>
>
> What I didn't include in Elisa's response was her description of  
> vocabulary acquisition: usage, scaffolding, usage, scaffolding... and  
> that's what I've seen through the years with both immersion kids and  
> ELL/LEP kids.  I just haven't seen any evidence that big words on  
> worksheets/workbooks transfer.  I've seen plenty of evidence that  
> USING big words transfers.  And I'd guess that Elisa would agree that  
> using big words along with concrete experiences pays the biggest  
> dividends.  My guess is that the next-most-profitable would be using  
> big words with symbolic experience (following the math metaphor here),  
> such as when reading a picture book, would be the next-more-effective.  
>  The least effective would be defining words with more abstract words.
>
> Some of the vocabulary programs sold today seem to me to be a way to  
> make us (educators) and the public "feel better" that we're actually  
> doing something in regard to vocabulary acquisition and are "bridging  
> the gap" between the haves and have nots.  Also, we can believe our  
> students are "accountable" for vocabulary acquisition when we use  
> these programs.  Translation:  we have a grade for a grade book.
>
> The heartbreaking agony of this whole topic of vocabulary acquisition  
> to me is that when someone like Elisa talks about usage/scaffolding,  
> we see a rich language environment with lots of experiences, and know  
> that's what works.  But with the current pandemic of testing, testing,  
> testing, that's the part of our curriculum we cut out!!  We take away  
> (and I'm not faulting any of us) the very thing which does teach  
> enable children to acquire language, including vocabulary.
>
> And, to make it all the more frustrating, sad-to-the-bone to me is  
> that our professional newbies are seeing education as it is today and  
> extrapolating that that's all it can (or should) be.  Dry,  
> "efficient," droning.
> For years I have used big words when reading aloud and helped kids get  
> the meaning by explaining them right along with what's in the actual  
> text. Other times, I've just kept reading in anticipation of the story  
> doing its work. Make sense?Elisa
>
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