Hi Jennifer,

 

I did not read all the posts leading up to this--but thought I'd share 
something on the reading/testing of non-sense words.  My school district 
invited Dr. Ted Hasselbrin ( I may have misspelled his last name) to give our 
key note this year.  He did an excellent job of delving into the science of 
reading.  

 

One of the things he shared is that the best way to be sure students have 
become "fluent" with the alphabetic principal is to test them on non-sense 
words.  He works with mostly middle and high school kids who did not master the 
alphabetic principal in elementary school.  When these kids were given a list 
of site words, many of them would be extremely accurate.  When they were given 
a list of non-sense words, they had no idea how to attack them.

 

Here's my point:  any multisyllabic word, or any word that you may have never 
seen before has a lot in common with non-sense words.   Students must be 
absolutely fluent in the alphabetic principal in order to advance their reading 
skills.   A non-sense word test does a very good job of mimicking what kids 
need to be able to do when they have no where else to look but at the word...no 
pictures, no adult help, nothing but their own tool box of skills...and keep in 
mind that at some point, even context will break down as a way to figure out  
meaning...

 

Fluency in the alphabetic principal needs to be rock solid by third grade or 
students will fail at reading and eventually at school.  Non-sense word tests 
have there place in the testing arena because they give us good information on 
how kids attack words they have never seen  before.

Amy McGovern

Reading Teacher

Direct Instruction Specialist
Educational Consultant
715-966-6645



 
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:40:18 -0400
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] RtI
> 
> 
> Jan
> We use TPRI in K---Texas Primary Reading Inventory. It does not include 
> the things that bother me most about DIBELS...the one minute timings and 
> reading of nonsense words. We use it for K only but there are 1-2 grade 
> materials too. 
> Jennifer
> In a message dated 8/27/2009 5:10:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [email protected] writes:
> 
> The only elementary school in my district is going to start Response to 
> Intervention this fall with reading.
> 
> The committee who has been investigating RtI has come to the conclusion 
> the DIEBELS is the only universal screener to use. They want something very 
> fast and not too hard to use.
> 
> Do any of you use another universal screener?
> Thanks!
> Jan
> 
> 
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