We have found that when we get the kids involved in conversations before they write, they have a much better sence of what they write. So, if we, as a class, small group, or pair, share what we've read, in terms of "strategies good readers use," they are much more able to put those conversations on paper.
Ellen Stein Reading Resource Teacher Riverview Elementary School 410-887-1428 ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hillary Marchel [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:05 PM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] RtI I think their reading words and not a story. For the most part their reading is mechanical. Of course after studying comprehension strategies during the year, the students read with prosody,intonation and comprehension. I'm really talking more about the beginning of the year. I guess I would like to look into some research and see what is says about children who are good readers but not good writers. I like your point about "thought." It is hard for some children and adults to get their thoughts on paper. Do you use a reading program in kindergarten? Thank you, Hillary On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Laura Rieben wrote: > I do think the two skills compliment each other but writing has a > mechanical > component and many different skills than reading does. I have many > good > readers (high SES school) in Kindergarten each year. I think they > are truly > reading. Their ability to get their thoughts down on paper vary: > some can > write with spaces, capital letters, etc. and some start out the same > as > lower kindergarteners. Why do you suspect that the children aren't > really > reading? If they know the words, discuss the book, and can apply that > learning to a new, previously unseen book, isn't that reading? > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Hillary Marchel <[email protected] > >wrote: > >> More food for thought. Ok, I have readers in my kindergarten >> classroom. >> Parents are for ever telling me their children can read. My focus >> is to to >> have the children enjoy reading and to teach all the facets of >> comprehension >> to all my students. Some questions.............Any opinions about a >> guided >> reading program in kindergarten? Is it just memorization ( their >> fortunate >> to have someone reading to them so they have memorized the words) >> at this >> level when parents say their child can read? If a child is a good >> reader >> wouldn't he be a good writer? One is decoding and the other >> recoding. What >> does it say if the child is not a good writer but a real good >> reader? Thanks >> for your kind responses. Hillary >> >> On Aug 29, 2009, at 7:37 AM, EDWARD JACKSON wrote: >> >> >>> I suppose this would be vital information if we were raising >>> children to >>> read word lists, rather than text. Pat Cunnigham advocates >>> reading names, >>> which makes more sense to me. >>> >>> >>> Lori Jackson M.Ed.Reading Specialist >>> Broken Bow, NE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD >>> Join me >>> >>> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:52:12 -0600 >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] RtI >>>> >>>> The missing link between nonsense words and unknown words is >>>> "meaning"...If the child has "nowhere else to look but at the >>>> word" find >>>> another book or ask for help. >>>> Elisa >>>> >>>> Elisa Waingort >>>> Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual >>>> Dalhousie Elementary >>>> Calgary, Canada >>>> >>>> The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or >>>> even >>>> touched. They must be felt within the heart. >>>> —Helen Keller >>>> >>>> Visit my blog, A Teacher's Ruminations, and post a message. >>>> http://waingortgrade2spanishbilingual.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> Here's my point: any multisyllabic word, or any word that you >>>> may have >>>> never seen before has a lot in common with non-sense words. >>>> Students must >>>> be absolutely fluent in the alphabetic principal in order to >>>> advance their >>>> reading skills. A non-sense word test does a very good job of >>>> mimicking >>>> what kids need to be able to do when they have no where else to >>>> look but at >>>> the word...no pictures, no adult help, nothing but their own tool >>>> box of >>>> skills...and keep in mind that at some point, even context will >>>> break down >>>> as a way to figure out meaning... >>>> >>>> give us good information on how kids attack words they have never >>>> seen >>>> before. >>>> >>>> Amy McGovern >>>> >>>> Reading Teacher >>>> >>>> Direct Instruction Specialist >>>> Educational Consultant >>>> 715-966-6645 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >>> . >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >> . >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org > . > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. 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