I think their reading words and not a story. For the most part their reading is mechanical. Of course after studying comprehension strategies during the year, the students read with prosody,intonation and comprehension. I'm really talking more about the beginning of the year. I guess I would like to look into some research and see what is says about children who are good readers but not good writers. I like your point about "thought." It is hard for some children and adults to get their thoughts on paper. Do you use a reading program in kindergarten? Thank you, Hillary
On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Laura Rieben wrote:

I do think the two skills compliment each other but writing has a mechanical component and many different skills than reading does. I have many good readers (high SES school) in Kindergarten each year. I think they are truly reading. Their ability to get their thoughts down on paper vary: some can write with spaces, capital letters, etc. and some start out the same as lower kindergarteners. Why do you suspect that the children aren't really
reading?  If they know the words, discuss the book, and can apply that
learning to a new, previously unseen book, isn't that reading?

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Hillary Marchel <[email protected] >wrote:

More food for thought. Ok, I have readers in my kindergarten classroom. Parents are for ever telling me their children can read. My focus is to to have the children enjoy reading and to teach all the facets of comprehension to all my students. Some questions.............Any opinions about a guided reading program in kindergarten? Is it just memorization ( their fortunate to have someone reading to them so they have memorized the words) at this level when parents say their child can read? If a child is a good reader wouldn't he be a good writer? One is decoding and the other recoding. What does it say if the child is not a good writer but a real good reader? Thanks
for your kind responses. Hillary

On Aug 29, 2009, at 7:37 AM, EDWARD JACKSON wrote:


I suppose this would be vital information if we were raising children to read word lists, rather than text. Pat Cunnigham advocates reading names,
which makes more sense to me.


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The missing link between nonsense words and unknown words is
"meaning"...If the child has "nowhere else to look but at the word" find
another book or ask for help.
Elisa

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Here's my point: any multisyllabic word, or any word that you may have never seen before has a lot in common with non-sense words. Students must be absolutely fluent in the alphabetic principal in order to advance their reading skills. A non-sense word test does a very good job of mimicking what kids need to be able to do when they have no where else to look but at the word...no pictures, no adult help, nothing but their own tool box of skills...and keep in mind that at some point, even context will break down
as a way to figure out  meaning...

give us good information on how kids attack words they have never seen
before.

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