Well, what's that business mentioned in your mail from January (quoted
below), with the backoff being broken, then being broken more, then
possibly been fixed - or not?

https://github.com/moses-smt/mosesdecoder/commit/44fec57c535db2df73ccbb1628d8143a9c728c19


I set up a system that was supposed to do backoff with factored
generation steps, more or less in the manner of what's described in this
paper: Interpolated Backoff for Factored Translation Models, Philipp
Koehn and Barry Haddow, AMTA 2012.

MIRA tunes all the weights of the backoff models to 0. With exactly the
same configuration, this did not happen last year (February 2014). Maybe
the [decoding-graph-backoff] setting didn't have any effect prior to
some of your code modifications, and the models were actually competing
in older setups? Or it's buggy now. I can't really tell.

I can show you the two setups if you want.



On Thu, 2015-04-16 at 21:34 +0400, Hieu Hoang wrote:
> Didn't know it has changed. How should it behave and how does it
> actually behave?
> 
> On 16 Apr 2015 21:04, "Matthias Huck" <[email protected]> wrote:
>         Hi Hieu,
>         
>         It seems that [decoding-graph-backoff] doesn't quite behave
>         like last
>         year any more. Can you briefly explain how its behaviour has
>         changed,
>         i.e. what it did before and what it does now? Can you please
>         also let me
>         know whether there's a way to reproduce the old behaviour via
>         configuration options?
>         
>         Cheers,
>         Matthias
>         
>         
>         
>         On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 15:20 +0000, Hieu Hoang wrote:
>         > >From the git history, I think it was slightly broken, then
>         I broke it even
>         > more in May 2014.
>         >
>         >
>         
> https://github.com/moses-smt/mosesdecoder/commit/44fec57c535db2df73ccbb1628d8143a9c728c19
>         >
>         > It was
>         >    endPos-startPos+1 >= backoff
>         > then
>         >   endPos-startPos+1 <= backoff
>         > I think it should be
>         >   endPos-startPos+1 > backoff
>         >
>         > I'll change it if it's ok with everyone
>         >
>         >
>         > On 9 January 2015 at 15:11, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt
>         <[email protected]>
>         > wrote:
>         >
>         > >  Hm, we have been using it at WIPO, but I have to admit I
>         never checked
>         > > it _actually_ does anything useful. We sorta believe it
>         does.
>         > >
>         > > W dniu 09.01.2015 o 16:08, Hieu Hoang pisze:
>         > >
>         > >   Hi All
>         > >
>         > >  Does anyone use this functionality in Moses when you have
>         multiple
>         > > phrase-tables?
>         > >
>         > >  From the code, it doesn't look like it works as described
>         in
>         > >   http://www.statmt.org/moses/?n=Moses.AdvancedFeatures
>         > >
>         > >  Maybe I'm missing something
>         > >
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>         > > Research Associate
>         > > University of Edinburgh
>         > > http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>         > >
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