the placeholders shouldn't be dependent on the pt implementation.

I don't know about mosesserver though

Hieu Hoang
http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu

On 24 August 2016 at 13:47, Mike Ladwig <[email protected]> wrote:

> Training appears to work with passing "-placeholder-factor 1 -xml-input
> exclusive" to mert-moses and I get the expected results throughout the
> tuning process.
>
> Unfortunately, it appears that the compact phrase table implementation
> (reordering is fine) is not compatible with placeholders. I found some
> inconclusive discussion of the issue about a year ago.
>
> I am working with the 2.1.1 release, and will investigate the 3.x release
> -- does anyone have any information or experience using placeholders, the
> compact phrase tables, and mosesserver (another sometimes problematic
> element) together?
>
> Thanks,
> mike.
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Matthias Huck <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In the EMS configuration file, you can specify
>>
>>         decoder-settings = "..."
>>
>> under both [TUNING] and [EVALUATION]. Maybe that's all you need?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Matthias
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2016-08-23 at 00:40 +0100, Hieu Hoang wrote:
>> > no really sure what you mean. Shouldn't have to dig around mert
>> > -moses.pl.
>> >
>> > It's fairly straightforward but I would say that placeholders is only
>> > used
>> > by some people. If you find a suspected bug, report it or try & fix
>> > it
>> > yourself
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hieu Hoang
>> > http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>> >
>> > On 23 August 2016 at 00:22, Mike Ladwig <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Hieu!
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for the reply.
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > hi mike
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 1. If I add "-placeholder-factor 1 -xml-input exclusive" to the
>> > > > > --decoder-flags parameter of mert-moses.pl, will that single
>> > > > > addition
>> > > > > extend into both places mentioned in the EMS section?
>> > > > >
>> > > > No, if you want to use placeholders in tuning and during testing,
>> > > > you
>> > > > need to putting in both places. mert-moses.pl only does tuning
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I think I am confused because there are two [EVALUATION] sectons on
>> > > the
>> > > page. The first is in section 3 (Tuning) and the second is in
>> > > section 4
>> > > (Evaluation).
>> > >
>> > > Is the section 3 Evaluation block an error, or do I need to go into
>> > > the
>> > > guts of mert-moses.pl to add flags to the decoder code invoked
>> > > inside
>> > > mert-moses.pl?
>> > >
>> > > mike.
>> > >
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