I'm not using mosesserver yet, just moses.

One previous report was here:

https://www.mail-archive.com/moses-support%40mit.edu/msg12355.html

But I'm not sure if this was with moses 2 or 3. There was a later report
from Tom Hoar with similar information.


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected]> wrote:

> the placeholders shouldn't be dependent on the pt implementation.
>
> I don't know about mosesserver though
>
> Hieu Hoang
> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>
> On 24 August 2016 at 13:47, Mike Ladwig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Training appears to work with passing "-placeholder-factor 1 -xml-input
>> exclusive" to mert-moses and I get the expected results throughout the
>> tuning process.
>>
>> Unfortunately, it appears that the compact phrase table implementation
>> (reordering is fine) is not compatible with placeholders. I found some
>> inconclusive discussion of the issue about a year ago.
>>
>> I am working with the 2.1.1 release, and will investigate the 3.x release
>> -- does anyone have any information or experience using placeholders, the
>> compact phrase tables, and mosesserver (another sometimes problematic
>> element) together?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> mike.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Matthias Huck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In the EMS configuration file, you can specify
>>>
>>>         decoder-settings = "..."
>>>
>>> under both [TUNING] and [EVALUATION]. Maybe that's all you need?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2016-08-23 at 00:40 +0100, Hieu Hoang wrote:
>>> > no really sure what you mean. Shouldn't have to dig around mert
>>> > -moses.pl.
>>> >
>>> > It's fairly straightforward but I would say that placeholders is only
>>> > used
>>> > by some people. If you find a suspected bug, report it or try & fix
>>> > it
>>> > yourself
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hieu Hoang
>>> > http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>>> >
>>> > On 23 August 2016 at 00:22, Mike Ladwig <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi Hieu!
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks for the reply.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected]>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > hi mike
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 1. If I add "-placeholder-factor 1 -xml-input exclusive" to the
>>> > > > > --decoder-flags parameter of mert-moses.pl, will that single
>>> > > > > addition
>>> > > > > extend into both places mentioned in the EMS section?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > No, if you want to use placeholders in tuning and during testing,
>>> > > > you
>>> > > > need to putting in both places. mert-moses.pl only does tuning
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I think I am confused because there are two [EVALUATION] sectons on
>>> > > the
>>> > > page. The first is in section 3 (Tuning) and the second is in
>>> > > section 4
>>> > > (Evaluation).
>>> > >
>>> > > Is the section 3 Evaluation block an error, or do I need to go into
>>> > > the
>>> > > guts of mert-moses.pl to add flags to the decoder code invoked
>>> > > inside
>>> > > mert-moses.pl?
>>> > >
>>> > > mike.
>>> > >
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