ah, it looks like there was an error with compact pt's word alignment
output.

I believe that would have been fixed pdq.

Hieu Hoang
http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu

On 24 August 2016 at 13:56, Mike Ladwig <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm not using mosesserver yet, just moses.
>
> One previous report was here:
>
> https://www.mail-archive.com/moses-support%40mit.edu/msg12355.html
>
> But I'm not sure if this was with moses 2 or 3. There was a later report
> from Tom Hoar with similar information.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> the placeholders shouldn't be dependent on the pt implementation.
>>
>> I don't know about mosesserver though
>>
>> Hieu Hoang
>> http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>>
>> On 24 August 2016 at 13:47, Mike Ladwig <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Training appears to work with passing "-placeholder-factor 1 -xml-input
>>> exclusive" to mert-moses and I get the expected results throughout the
>>> tuning process.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, it appears that the compact phrase table implementation
>>> (reordering is fine) is not compatible with placeholders. I found some
>>> inconclusive discussion of the issue about a year ago.
>>>
>>> I am working with the 2.1.1 release, and will investigate the 3.x
>>> release -- does anyone have any information or experience using
>>> placeholders, the compact phrase tables, and mosesserver (another sometimes
>>> problematic element) together?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> mike.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Matthias Huck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> In the EMS configuration file, you can specify
>>>>
>>>>         decoder-settings = "..."
>>>>
>>>> under both [TUNING] and [EVALUATION]. Maybe that's all you need?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Matthias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2016-08-23 at 00:40 +0100, Hieu Hoang wrote:
>>>> > no really sure what you mean. Shouldn't have to dig around mert
>>>> > -moses.pl.
>>>> >
>>>> > It's fairly straightforward but I would say that placeholders is only
>>>> > used
>>>> > by some people. If you find a suspected bug, report it or try & fix
>>>> > it
>>>> > yourself
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hieu Hoang
>>>> > http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu
>>>> >
>>>> > On 23 August 2016 at 00:22, Mike Ladwig <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi Hieu!
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks for the reply.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected]>
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > hi mike
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > 1. If I add "-placeholder-factor 1 -xml-input exclusive" to the
>>>> > > > > --decoder-flags parameter of mert-moses.pl, will that single
>>>> > > > > addition
>>>> > > > > extend into both places mentioned in the EMS section?
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > No, if you want to use placeholders in tuning and during testing,
>>>> > > > you
>>>> > > > need to putting in both places. mert-moses.pl only does tuning
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I think I am confused because there are two [EVALUATION] sectons on
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > page. The first is in section 3 (Tuning) and the second is in
>>>> > > section 4
>>>> > > (Evaluation).
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Is the section 3 Evaluation block an error, or do I need to go into
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > guts of mert-moses.pl to add flags to the decoder code invoked
>>>> > > inside
>>>> > > mert-moses.pl?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > mike.
>>>> > >
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