Hi everyone, [Adding Nicole and Asaf]
A quick note as I have to leave soon: the issue here is not whether people who will anyways be at the conference (because of their other roles or "titles") can/should/will hold an MR meeting and whether that meeting will be formal or informal, before/during/after the conference - this is totally up to you and you're welcome to hold any meeting you want. The issue at hand is whether people who are currently *not* on the list of participants (as chapter representatives or WMF board members) should join the conference, and the real matter here is who will pick up the tab for their flight tickets and accommodation costs. Yes, it's about money (much more than it is about meeting space). The way I understand it, WMDE was not planning to bear this cost of extra attendees who are joining of their own accord just because there is an MR meeting (without a clear list of attendees). Does anyone have a clear list of who was actually involved with MR and whose participation should/must be provided for, and by whom exactly? Also, the way I understand it and from what I've been told, the MR work is winding down and this is more or less its final stages. How many people do we need on the meeting, and how many of them (*if at all*) need to be funded especially so they can join the MR work? My personal take here: have a meeting of MR people who are already at the conference, and that's it. I find it rather difficult to justify paying from donors' money for more people on top of that, for one more meeting in a process that's basically approaching its final stage. Any other decision must come with a commitment by some organization [WMF?] to bear the cost. Harel Cain Program manager for Chapters Conference 2012 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 05:37, Abbas Mahmood <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm not sure whether one session (presumably 1hr) during the Chapters > Meeting will be enough to iron out all the details left. Perhaps a session > during the Chapters Meeting in addition to the MR meeting prior to the > Chapters Meeting will be a better choice. > > Or would it be better if we would have a session during the Chapters > Meeting then an MR meeting after the Chapters Meeting? That way, we will > have gotten input from the chapters before finalizing the MR stuff. > > --Abbas. > > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:56:22 -0500 > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Movementroles] Movement roles meeting in Berlin > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Alice Wiegand <[email protected]>wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've been asked from organizers of the Wikimedia Conference for the > second time now, if Movement Roles is planning a meeting. > There have been registrations and questions from people involved in > movement roles, but it seems as if there are still a lot of questions. > > > I think movement roles is an important and relevant topic at the > conference, though not sure what extent things will be decided before then > or what. > > I am available and will happen to be in Berlin at the time anyway > (unrelated to chapters meeting), but not sure about there being a movement > roles meeting. > > Cheers, > Katie > > > > Sadly I have no idea who else want to join a meeting in Berlin, except > of Anirudh, who also has contacted me personally. I don't believe that > we are getting further if we don't start to inform us and the > organizers about the what and the who. > > What I definitely think is that the movement roles meeting on Thursday > should not be a back door to join the chapters conference. There is a > limitation of participants and it is up to the chapters to define such > general conditions for their meeting. If movement roles should be part > of the conference we need to discuss this with the program organizer > Harel (in Cc) and only if there is space for MR, those who are not > representatives of chapters or Foundation should join the general > meeting. (That's a personal opinion, not discussed with anyone > before.) > > I don't have an idea if there is any budget for a movement roles > meeting, so this is still one of the open questions. SJ, do you have > more information? > Another one is, who would like to attend the meeting on thursday. > > To fix the latter I've created > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles/Working_group_meeting_2012-3-29 > Please sign in if you want to join the meeting. > > Regards, Alice. > > _______________________________________________ > Movementroles mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/movementroles > > > > > -- > President, Wikimedia District of Columbia > http://wikimediadc.org > @wikimediadc / @wikimania2012 > > > _______________________________________________ Movementroles mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/movementroles > > _______________________________________________ > Movementroles mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/movementroles > > -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
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