Hi,

I must admit I have my doubts on multiple of the involved questions. While
I agree it is an important topic, I think the most appropriate thing would
be to bring this discussion to a larger stage - where it should have been a
long time ago according to our planning. Especially since time seems to be
catching up with us (discussions are happening without this groups
involvement *as a group*) I am not sure how people would respond if we were
to have yet another real life meeting right before the chapters meeting. I
think it would be received critically and rightfully so.

If movement roles (the topic, not the group) is a significant part of the
agenda, and adding someone who has now quite some experience thinking about
that topic would be helpful and not too costly - I think it would be a good
idea. Not because that person deserved that right through this group but
because the expertise would be helpful. In general I think it would be good
if the organizers (hint to Harel to add to considerations next year!) would
consider in the future to add some 'expert' non-representative slots when
the topics on the agenda ask for that.

Best,
Lodewijk

No dia 27 de Fevereiro de 2012 10:49, Anirudh Bhati
<[email protected]>escreveu:

> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Alice Wiegand 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Harel,
>>
>> On 27 February 2012 08:02, Harel Cain <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Does anyone have a clear list of who was actually involved with MR and
>> whose
>> > participation should/must be provided for, and by whom exactly?
>>
>> No, that's why I've created
>>
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles/Working_group_meeting_2012-3-29
>>
>>
>> > My personal take here: have a meeting of MR people who are already at
>> the
>> > conference, and that's it. I find it rather difficult to justify paying
>> from
>> > donors' money for more people on top of that, for one more meeting in a
>> > process that's basically approaching its final stage. Any other decision
>> > must come with a commitment by some organization [WMF?] to bear the
>> cost.
>>
>> That's why I've asked SJ about the budget.
>>
>
> Thank you, Alice.  We will need to know the decision on this so we can all
> plan our month ahead.  I personally have other commitments that I will have
> to postpone if I am to make it there in time. :-)
>
> But I do believe that since we started this project, we need to conclude
> it appropriately, and that will require participation from the core team of
> contributors, and not just those who are incidentally present at the
> conference.  I think we need to be very clear on what ideas should and
> should not be attributed to our work.
>
> In any case, I hope we all make it to the MR meeting, and in case a
> decision to the contrary is to be made, I'd appreciate if it is
> communicated to us soon.  Thanks!
>
> anirudh
>
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