I think calling things 'the result of MR' is extremely dangerous anyway. As soon as we need the working group to defend an outcome - that means it is obviously a bad outcome.
But aside from that I agree that it wouldn't be a 'real' MR meeting - and I'm fine with that personally. Best, Lodewijk No dia 27 de Fevereiro de 2012 13:35, Béria Lima <[email protected]>escreveu: > The problem with that Bishakha is that no one can after say that this is > the result of "MR". If I get together with 2 other MR people who happens to > be in the same city I am, we can't call that a "Movement Roles" meeting. > That would be a meetup to the best. > _____ > * > * > > *[image: Inline images 1]* > > *Béria Lima* > > * * > > * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.* > > > > *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>** > > > > > > > > * > ** <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > On 27 February 2012 09:18, Bishakha Datta <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Comments inline, >> Bishakha >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Alice Wiegand >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hi Harel, >>> >>> On 27 February 2012 08:02, Harel Cain <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Does anyone have a clear list of who was actually involved with MR and >>> whose >>> > participation should/must be provided for, and by whom exactly? >>> >>> No, that's why I've created >>> >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles/Working_group_meeting_2012-3-29 >>> >>> >>> > My personal take here: have a meeting of MR people who are already at >>> the >>> > conference, and that's it. I find it rather difficult to justify >>> paying from >>> > donors' money for more people on top of that, for one more meeting in a >>> > process that's basically approaching its final stage. Any other >>> decision >>> > must come with a commitment by some organization [WMF?] to bear the >>> cost. >>> >>> That's why I've asked SJ about the budget. >>> >> >> I just looked at the minutes of our last IRC chat on 12 Feb - and this >> was what we agreed to by way of winding up Movement Roles: >> >> Minutes: "We agreed on these steps: >> 1. Engage in the new models and standards discussions on meta. >> - Identify concerns with the new models framework >> 2. Communicate what came out of our work >> - Summarize important MR work, and organize an overview linking to >> them (probably the MR main page) >> 3. Indicate a path for the future >> - Identify clusters of open topics to be carried forward, and parallel >> work taking place today. >> - Create a future roadmap, showing what group is responsible for >> working on each parts and follow-up area" >> >> Berlin was mentioned, but not specifically. Meaning, we agreed to meet in >> Berlin, but did not discuss the point raised here: funding group members >> specially to attend this meeting. >> >> Given that we are winding down, I too would personally be in favour of >> doing what's needed online before Berlin to wrap up MR, with a small 'tail' >> in Berlin. >> >> I also support this observation made on this list: >> >> Harel: "My personal take here: have a meeting of MR people who are >> already at the >> > conference, and that's it. I find it rather difficult to justify >> paying from >> > donors' money for more people on top of that, for one more meeting in a >> > process that's basically approaching its final stage." >> >> So I too would be in favour of a small meeting on Thursday 29 March, the >> day before the official conference begins, with those who are present and >> can attend, or need minimum additional support to attend this - rather than >> bringing in individuals specially for this. >> >> Chapters Committee is having a meeting that day too, which may make it >> difficult for some to attend both a ChapCom meeting and a Movement Roles >> meeting on the same day. >> >> Best >> Bishakha >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Movementroles mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/movementroles >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Movementroles mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/movementroles > >
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