Hi!
Hi! I hope I won't offend you, Filip and Torsten, if I answer in the same mail, since your comments are the same.
Don't worry :-)
An Eclipse plugin ? yes, I do have considered this option! But I have a bad experience of Eclipse as an IDE for other languages than Java, and I don't know if the problem was the extension for this language or Eclipse itself. I understand Eclipse is an industry standard today but at first, I thought a specialized IDE would be better.
I agree that Eclipse is a bit Java-oriented (though there is support for other languages; and, in general, the archtecture seems to be quite flexible).
What I think is that IDE today are too object-oriented *oriented*. And I'm not talking about visual designers. Just look at code completion tools for instance, it's all about navigation through classes and methods, etc. If an IDE would ever be developed for a multi-paradigm language like Oz, it would have new kind of tools. If code completion help when dealing with object oriented hierarchy, what would help when developing with constraints ? or with logic ? I'm very keen to help answering these questions at the crossroad of technology and ergonomics.
That's a good point. I'm looking forward to seeing some of the new tools.
I don't know if Eclipse can be extended with such tools. Isn't it easier to develop something from scratch ?
I'm sure that Eclipse can be extended with such tools, and - at the same time - I'm sure that it's easier to develop this from scratch. I did experiment with Eclipse plugins some time ago, and it seems that you need to understand a lot about Eclipse architecture and interfaces before you begin designing your own add-ons. I agree with you that it might be more efficient to build your own IDE and get your ideas working quickly, than spend the time learning a heap of Java interfaces.
Best, Filip _________________________________________________________________________________ mozart-users mailing list [email protected] http://www.mozart-oz.org/mailman/listinfo/mozart-users
