On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Joe Francis wrote:
  > (MPT)
  > Ok, so the current behavior in Mozilla isn't because your usability
  > tests have shown that Hotmail's UI designers are wrong and the Mozilla
  > behavior is easier to use -- but because you think the alternative
  > behavior would be `broken'. Would you like to explain why?

  It was irony.  I guess you missed it.  The real point is that calling
  our users stupid and assuming that our users want the same things as the
  word procesing users you mention does not strike me as a cogent argument
  in favor of 'returns as paragraphs'.

I don't think anyone called the users stupid. I think the point was that we
are catering for the ones that are, in an effort that doesn't really work, at
the expense of those who are trying to get it right.

And I have seen the argument used by you that the goal is to be more like a
word processor...

  We'll change it when and if our users ask for it.  So far they haven't.
  Maybe they will soon.  Maybe they won't.

We are users, asking for it. This sounds more like the standard Microsoft
approach to features they don't like - or is there some clear and obvious
algorithm for determining which users need to be asking for it?

Charles McCN

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