On 06 Jul 2001 15:57:38 -0500, JTK wrote:
> Gervase Markham wrote:
> > 
> > JTK wrote:
> > >
> > > Gervase Markham wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > No, in principle it is not open source whatsoever. Netscape 6 branches
> > > > > from Mozilla at certain points in development and features propietary to
> > > > > 6.x are added/refined, etc.
> > > >
> > > > That's not true;
> > >
> > > That is 100%+ true and you damn well know it Mr. Markham.
> > 
> > Allow me to clarify. I was disagreeing with the first sentence of the
> > quote.
> 
> And I was taking you to task for disagreeing with that statement, which
> you know full well is exactly true.  Netscape 6 is not an "Open Source"
> project in any way, shape, or form.  Mozilla may be "Open Source", but
> Netscape 6 is a proprietary (as in, "where do I download the AIM
> source?") piece of software.
If you bother to reread the "entire" first sentence, it states that
Netscape 6 is not open source whatsoever.  Indicating that in no way
shape or form is any part of Netscape 6 open source.  This is utterly
incorrect.  While there are parts of Netscape 6 that are closed source,
such as your favorite AIM reference, there are also many parts of
Netscape 6 which are open source.  Thus the blanket reference is
incorrect.

> > The second sentence is completely true. Apologies if anyone was
> > misled.
> > 
> > > > be making source
> > > > releases (at the same time it makes binary releases) of all the files in
> > > > Netscape 6.x under the MPL or NPL or another open source license.
> > > >
> > >
> > > So where's the code for that sweet AIM program?  Yeah.
> > 
> > (Many of) the files in Netscape 6.x which make up AIM are not under the
> > MPL or NPL.
> 
> Hence, Netscape 6.x is not "Open Source", not even in the AOL
> slave-labor sense.  QED.
Don't believe anyone has claimed that the entire Netscape 6 project is
open source, just that the entire project is not closed source.  It is a
hybrid.
 
> > However, I believe (and I haven't checked) that if you check
> > the XUL and JS files for the AIM frontend, which you can get from a 6.x
> > installation, you will find they are under the NPL.
> >
> 
> And if you check, both my ass and Marilyn Monroe's face have a mole. 
> But one's a whole hell of a lot prettier than the other.

And as always (at least from your posts that I've seen) when you can't
argue with logic you fall back to vulgarities.

Jamin W. Collins

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