Sam Emrick wrote:
>
> I think it would Be A Good Thing to simply PROHIBIT Mozilla vs Internet
> Explorer performance comparison or discussion here.
Why? What are you afraid of? I say it would "Be A Good Thing" if there
were a lot MORE Mozilla vs. IE performance comparisons (i.e., hard
repeatable numbers) published here. Unless the 1.0 release criteria for
performance are going to be ignored, these numbers are going to be
required to release.
Plus, who's going to do the prohibiting? I thought this project was
"Open". Then again, the sign still says "netscape.", doesn't it. I
thought there were plans to change that....
> That comparison simply brings too much unrelated baggage with it.
It brings a lot of denials from the Faithful and the He-Man
Micro$oft-Haters Club, granted. Such is the price of "Open"ness I
guess.
> A pointer
> to a published report is good,
No it isn't. Not the ones that get bandied about here anyway (CNET
etc.). The only such pointers which would be useful would be ones which
point to reproducable tests, and the only such I know of are those
finally published by Mr. Morrison.
> but this banter is pointless and gets is the
> way of useful communications (The font thing, for example. Those of us
> looking at it have waded through 60+ bantering notes to exchange some
> ideas.
Don't wade then if it bothers you.
> Will anybody looking here tomorrow or next week, somebody who might
> contribute to the font problem, choose to filter through the banter?)
> Anyway.
>
> How about PROMOTE Netscape 4.X as comparison basis.
Yep, there also needs to be comparisons to NC4.7x in order to release.
> Mozilla's plenty enough
> slower than 4.7 to identify areas most performance challenged. The typical
> mozilla user or customer is more likely to be migrating from earlier
> Netscape versions, not migrating from IE 5.5 or IE6.0, that is, comparison
> to Netscape 4.x is a more real-world customer-oriented comparison. Most of
> all, comparison to earlier Netscape releases brings less baggage and we can
> squelch the damnable noise in here.
That will quiet some I'm sure. Again I ask, to what good end? If you
want to silence people, then you should be trying to get AOL to drop the
"Open"ness charade.
> (if such a policy were made, how
> could/would it be enforced, short of fully reviewed/ moderated group. Would
> nastygrams to offenders be sufficient, you think?
They haven't stopped me and all my "off topic" contributions to the
project. Yet.
> Although, my experience
> here and other wide open forums, some people seem to enjoy being
> ridiculed).
> Anyway... Those in favor, raise your hands.........
>
My hand is firmly down Sam. The right thing to do here is get
repeatable performance comparisons between Mozilla and IE and NC4.7x
posted, and let the chips fall where they may. Frankly just two more
lines on Mr. Morrison's charts would be a good start.
And before you say it, yes, I'm trying to figure out how to do them
myself, and if I can get it to work, I'll do the posting.
--
Gary R. Van Sickle
