"Geoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is the heart of the matter.
Yes, it is. > I think that most of use here would accept that we are engaged in a conflict with M$. Concerning operating systems, there's Mac OS and Linux against M$'s Windows. Concerning browsers, there's Mozila, Opera, and so on against the Internet Explorer. Many use these alternatives not because they don't like the way Internet Explorer is, but mainly because they "hate" M$. So yes, you might call this a conflict. Maybe even a battle. > Where we differ is as to tactics in this part of the battlefield. From the perspective of a linux user I feel that I have enough difficulties weaning people away from > Windows without needing to explain to them the importance of this battle at the same time. I am quite happy, as it were, to dress up as the enemy > (if that is what being non-standard involves), if that is what is needed at this time to give me the enormously powerful weapon of a browser that > can, from a user's perspective, do anything IE can do. I can appreciate that your point of view may be different. And I appreciate that people like you have another point of view. It's a tough matter, and I think a similar thing was in mid-98, when Apple introduced the "iMac". It had no floppy drive, no SCSI, no ADB, and so on - before that, every Mac had it, and literally nobody wanted one to be without it. With this radical movement, Apple could move quite a lot of people - fortunately involving many hardware manufacturers too - to USB, which was introduced by iMac as a replacement for ADB and low-speed SCSI devices. They could have as well brought iMac _with_ these "legacy" interfaces, and provided a note in the manual "Usage of floppy drives is no longer recommended." - but people would have laughed at that and said "oh well, but what if I still use it, hmm?". Now, the "legacy interfaces" are things like Netscape 4's <layer> tag, and the new replacement would be the standards compliant <div>. Mozilla does the radical way just like Apple did back then, and so far isn't really that successful. It'll take quite a lot of time. mozilla.org has a "Tech Evangelism" team which talks with owners of huge sites like those you've mentioned, and tries to convince them to make their sites more standards compliant - and thus more compatible to Gecko-based browsers like Mozilla, Netscape 6, K-Meleon, and so on. Regards, S�ren Kuklau
