I RECOMMEND YOU TO BEFORE GO FOR A COFFE OR SOMETHIG SIMILAR
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| I hope you didn't read me wrong. I didn't say that a UI should
| have a shortcut for everything. It shouldn't. It should only expose
| what is necessary - other functions must be buried in menus or
| in other toolbars.
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| If you read my piece correctly you would have seen that I agree
| with you that an app that exposes everthing in the toolbar becomes
| unreadable, and that only those that are necessary should be
| included.
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| A UI is a language of communication between the app and
| the user. It should not be overwhelming, but it should not
| make it unnecessarily difficult to do a simple thing. Users
| should feel comfortable in the language otherwise he will
| not use it.
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| Yes, I do know what I'm talking about. A good UI should
| not be improvising ("improvisating" as you would say). Adding
| a Home button is not improvising. Removing it is.
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| We differ however, in the opinion whether a Home button is
| necessary or not. I believe it is. But I respect your opinion that
| it is not. I am not asking for a permanent Home button, but
| an option to show it.
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I believe all the application works diferent because the programs are
not the same. The fact that they have all similars UI, i guess is
because the market, the money. Therefore only few applications are
totally authentic, this ones are usually the liders.
Another example: Opera. Is fast, efficient... etc. But do you see
something original in its UI?; something which reflect how the program
internally work?. Personally think of opera a trash with the intention
of generate market, then they has made almost a clon of IE.
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| I was just pointing out that your analogy about a cookie manager
| button was inappropriate because not many people will find
| a cookie manager button useful. It is just another stupid button
| that nobody will use. The same cannot be said of Home.
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| I don't know why adding a Home button is such a big deal
| to Moz developers. Why do you have to be so defensive since
| you already have Go, Search and Print in the navigation bar.
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| Don't get me wrong improvisation per se is not wrong.
| Go and Search are examples of improvisation. Search has
| proven to be useful but Go hasn't. Removing the Home
| is an improvisation that has proven to be bad - it has
| an ugly consequence that users had to sacrifice browser
| real estate to the personal toolbar just to have a Home.
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| I don't see (please convince me) why Go, Search and Print
| deserve an option but Home doesn't.
|
| Regards,
| Bamm
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About this last i am agree with you. Since i m using mozilla, about two
years ago, i have found a lot a LOT of things in its user interface
which i guess has to be fixed. In fact i am actually fighting for open a
bug i submited about all this topic. Fighting because is hard to explain
this to the people who are behind the application; behind because even
if they want to be in the user place, they can't; they are the builders
developers of the application, then they will be always behind it. The
same thing happen to Architects, for example.
I work into the design ambient, also i was an studient of architecture.
And I just recently learned HTML, CSS, and little things of javascript,
you can view the resoults here:
http://latinmoz.f2g.net/
Since i am following mozilla, i been talking with many developers and
programing people. This has allowed me to understand how most of the
programers and developer see the aplications, and the point from where
they view and understand the applications.
And I have to say this(...may be i am wrong...), the big SIN of the
programers and aplications developers is: They doesnt put any relation
in the UI about the program. They just develop programs to work inside
of specifics and predesigned user interfaces, but a lot of them doesnt
think may be, developing a fast, efficient, compatible, etc... good
program and then (not before) design a user interface for it, could has
by result a completely new application, an aplication with a user
interface never seen before.
And that is what most of the user are looking for: new ways of work, new
work modes. In other words new languages. And Why? because get
languages, any kind, expand your cleverness of understanding.
I believe Microsoft has been demanded not only because the monopoly. I
guess Microsoft got the monopoly and did not realize they were closing
the peoples mind to only one language, and that is the opposite of advance.
I guess i am one of the lucky persons who, in the future, will be able
to say: "I used pencil and notebook in the school and university".
