Ben Bucksch wrote:
> Matthew Thomas wrote:
> 
>> Ben Bucksch wrote:
>>
>>> If you give people plaintext editor, I am sure, they wouldn't know how
>>> to stress words 
>>
>>
>> Are you SURE about that? REALLY sure? 
> 
> 
> OK. Humans know how to yell. I should have known ;-P-
> 
>> Only obsessive typographers such as myself would worry about trying to
>> indent successive lines in the list. Most would be quite happy just
>> putting a number or asterisk at the start of each paragraph, with no
>> indention of later lines. 
> 
> 
> With the associated degration of readability.
> 
> (If you want to do that, nobody stops you - it will work just fine in 
> the HTML editor.)
> 
>> So, removing fonts and colors from the HTML message composer would be a
>> sure-fire way of removing all the attraction the feature has for users,
>> while retaining all the aggravation it causes. Which would be a neat
>> trick if your long-term plan was to make plain text composition the
>> default, but you appear not to want that. 
> 
> 
> lol
> 
>>> I think that hardly anybody who uses email regularily uses webmail. 
>>
>>
>> Only rarely do our customers do anything else but use Webmail. We have
>> thousands of customers per day. 
> 
> 
> You are at an internet cafe, right?
> 1. Internet cafes are usually frequented by people who don't have their 
> own internet access <-> use the internet rarely.
> 2. Given the current dedicated Mailnews clients and their "preferences" 
> storage (which you rightfully critized in earlier posts), webmail is the 
> "only right thing" to do at an internet cafe.
> 
>> Hotmail has about 90 million accounts
>> (though perhaps a couple of million of those are spam accounts). Yahoo
>> Mail is in the tens of millions too. 
> 
> 
> And there are a lot of internet mail newbies. What's your point?
> 
> 
> 

I use Yahoo! Mail [on the web] as my main e-mail account. I've had this 
Y! account since '97, and I don't consider myself a newbie. Even during 
the [short] period when I used Outlook Express as my mail editor, I 
changed everything to be plain-text only, just as I did with Mozilla. 
After many years of using PINE as my mail editor at college, I find that 
HTML mail is only used for SPAM, and by the unsuspecting luser.

I've seen Rich Text mail editors online [mad Java though...]. They would 
be great, except for the fact that I think e-mail should be plain text. 
All Internet ettiquette explicitly states that e-mail should be to the 
point, and not need inflection to make it's point, as subtleties don't 
traverse the 'Net well. So, italics, boldness, and underlining should be 
superfluous. On the rare occasion something needs extra intensity, 
simple CAPS should do. Plain text should be default - and should be the 
only standard.

Just my thoughts,
-bZj

-- 
Brian Z Jones | down8 at yahoo dot com
Mozilla 0.9.3 | Windows 2000 Server, SP2


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