On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 01:27:18 UTC, "William L. Hartzell" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sir:
> 
> David Forrester wrote:
> > On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 15:45:46 UTC, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>>I have this too. Mozilla opens a blank copy of itself to launch the 
> >>>download routine, but when the download is finsihed the blank Mozilla 
> >>>is left running. I am using the latest Mozilla 1.1b drop.
> >>
> >>This is old news. but I'd like to know what developed here.  I have
> >>Mozilla set to open in the existing window, but any launcher opens it in
> >>a new window.
> >>
> >>Is the OS/2 "Open in existing window" preference a totally
> >>non-functional option?  I have stuff all over the place ignoring it
> >>completely - have had for years - through a couple dozen OS/2
> >>reinstallaitons.
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > No, it works for most applications.  But, it is a WPS setting.  i.e. 
> > It only works when you start a program from a WPS folder, or other WPS
> > function.  But, if an application is starting opening an object, it 
> > probably isn't doing it via the WPS.  Most of them seem to have 
> > somewhere that you enter the name of other applications, and it is 
> > started directly.  Hence, it's not using the WPS mechanism to control 
> > whether to open another window or not.
> > 
> I think you missed the point of Jim's complaint.  He is complaining 
> about the application opening another copy of itself, instead of using 
> the copy already running.  Mozilla is real bad about doing this.  When I 
> go through my list on newsgroups and click on the expired article notice 
> to update the list to what is currently on the server, I get a new copy 
> of Mozilla for each newsgroups that I do this function.  When I finish, 
> I have forty or more open windows.  BTW, Mozilla should be updating this 
>   list when it get new articles, but that is another bug.

I don't normally use Mozilla for news, but, in my brief testing I saw 
this.  And I thought it was bad.  But, if you said you where going 
through the newsgroup and clicking on links in different posts, and 
multiple browser windows were opening, I'd disagree.  This isn't a 
function that should refer back to the WPS setting.  This is something
that should be a setting inside Mozilla.  Something like: "open new 
window for links from posts".

> 
> The problem is this setting that Jim points to is in the OS/2 
> environment and these applications are not querying for this.  That is 
> plain bad engineering on the part of the developer.  I assume that 
> Windows also does this window opening routine and does not have a switch 
> to control it.

There's still a problem with this.  I can set the WPS default, and 
then set it for each program object.  I can also create two program 
objects for the same application and set it differently for each (I 
have done this in the past, but, I can't remember why).  So, which 
setting gets used?  Also, the setting is a WPS setting, not an OS/2 or
even a PM setting.  So, if the application is not WPS aware, it 
doesn't know what should happen.  And, if your opening an application 
from another one, there are two that don't know what's happening.

Also, there is an application difference in what is going on.  If you 
compare Mozilla and E, what happens if different.  Mozilla will only 
ever open one instance.  But, it can open more than one window.   E 
can have lots of instances, but, each will have only one window (one 
copy of E, one file, one window).  If you want to see evidence of 
this, look at the actual process running with pstat or something like 
Top.

Your right about Windows.  It doesn't have a setting for this.  It's 
basically up to the applications involved about what happens.

> 
> See the complaint is not about opening other applications at all.

Well, as Jim was replying to someone who had agreed with someone else 
about how PMMail opens a new Mozilla window when clicking on a 
"download" link in an e-mail, I don't think I agree.  But, I may just 
be getting picky :)

-- 
David Forrester
davidfor at internode dot on dot net
http://www.os2world.com/djfos2

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