On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:51:55 -0700 esteemed Asa Dotzler did hold forth thusly:
> 
> If it's Netscape's end users that your concerned about 

Most of all.

However, a test of Moz with a large group of end users would provide more 
direct and less filtered info about issues that would concern most of the 
developer groups that will want to use the Moz source to build other things. It 
just seems inefficient to not collect this sort of info. 

I also think the actual results that would come back from such a survey, if 
publically posted, would serve as a wake-up call about the problems with the 
Moz project. As it stands now the results coming back are anecdotal and 
diffused over many bug reports. Something of a more "social science" nature 
would not be so anecdotal and would therefore carry considerably more weight. 

>or Beonex's end 
> users or RedHat's end users 

Red Hat surely just takes whatever browsers are available and puts them on 
their distribution and expects their end users to report back to the makers of 
the browsers, not to RH. RH hasn't the staff or the business model to make them 
put much effort into any one program they include on their distro.

>or ActiveState's end users or Ximian's end 
> users 

Ximian's business model is like RH's but even more so.

>or Intel's end users or HP's end users or Nokia's end users or 
> IBM's end users or Bloomberg's end users or ForumZilla's end users or 
> Jabberzilla's end users or OEOne's end users or Aphrodite's end users or 
> Galeon's end users 

Some of these organizations would take the time to talk back to these companies 
because they see a browser embedded in their device and just think of it as 
part of the device. 

>then talk to them about what they need for their 
> particular distribution/product to satisfy their end users and that will 
> be (and has in been) fed back into Mozilla (through Bugzilla and other 
> channels).

Bugzilla is not a good mechanism for getting a sense of the relative 
priorities. I'd even favor surveys done on all these developer customers 
regardless of whether you wanted to survey end users. 


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