When I saw this message from Loki I became extremely confused and then read
the intertwined message -it appears that parts of a message I wrote and
messages from Eva Young have been pieced and spliced together and
intermingled. So now you can not tell who said what. The truth be known
Eva once was a Democrat and worked on the Jesse Jackson campaign - at that
point in time ('88) people confused us then also. It's the Young thing I'm
sure - you know we all look alike...
anyway, I was the one who questioned the filing date theory of it being the
kick-off of the campaign season. It is my version of campaign reform and I
do always question the purpose of the litmus test question when very few
people seem to understand it's importance anymore.
The biggest question is-so you get the DFL endorsement, you abide by it -
all these other people run and then the question is what does the DFL do
for the candidate? There are many DFL endorsed candidates who will ask that
question. Mike Freeman - do you have an answer to this? Usually the main
answer you get is "the sample ballot". Let's be clear, the DFL party at
the local level does not really have any money and the candidate's all chip
in hundreds of dollars each to get that sample ballot out. Yes, it is a
valuable piece of information since many people (seniors especially) do not
always get out to all the events and do all the reading necessary to be up
on all the candidate's so they appreciate being told who they are supposed
to vote for. Even the political operatives move from candidate to candidate
for the joy of working to elect a candidate, but generally speaking a
candidate's workers come from loyal friends and neighbors not the cadre of
DFL volunteers.
I think a lot of the discussion this past couple of weeks only points out
that the real question is back to the caucus versus primary methodologies
and the influence of special interest groups used in electing our
officeholders.
For now,
Annie (not Eva) Young
At 09:01 AM 2/23/01 -0800, loki anderson wrote:
> Eva,
> I cannot, for the life of me, fathom why you
>spend so much time and energy studying and critiquing
>the internal processes of the DFL party and the
>Stonewall DFL caucus when you are now a Republican.
>
> I don't think Stonewall would ever be
>de-certified, either. Perhaps they question the party
>loyalty of endorsement candidates because they feel it
>is relevant. Maybe they prefer candidates who respect
>party delegates. Or maybe they feel that they would
>have more influence in the election process through an
>active and vibrant caucus system than through an
>impersonal and costly primary system where GLBT issues
>are unlikely to be high on the voters' agenda.
>
>Why don't you ask them?
>
> Loki Anderson
> Audubon Park
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>--- Eva Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> At 02:11 PM 2/22/01 -0600, Annie Young wrote:
>> >Is there any truth to the fact that the GLBT rating
>> is impacted by the
>> >candidate's answer to the age old litmus test -
>> will you run against the
>> >DFL endorsed candidate in the primary? The fact
>> that so many candidates
>> >are saying yes, they will run in the primary,
>> should give pause to the
>> >folks who hold this litmus test as the almighty
>> decision on whether a
>> >person is qualified and competent to do the job and
>> therefore should be
>> >entitled to run.
>> When I was active with Stonewall DFL predicessor, 10
>> years or more ago, I
>> always opposed having such a question in our
>> screening procedures. This
>> question says nothing about whether a candidate is
>> qualified to do the
>> job--and has nothing to say about whether a
>> candidate knows anything about
>> GLBT issues or is supportive of the community. I
>> was kicked out of the DFL
>> when I supported Arne Carlson for Governor--and did
>> so publically. I'd
>> like to thank David Brauer for the Mpls issues
>> toolkit. That will be very
>> valuable for people making their decisions for
>> office.
>>
>> >As I have stated before it really bothers me that
>> the filing is in July and
>> >Joe, Susan and Oprah who didn't know the entire
>> process of endorsements
>> >tries to run for office against all the
>> know-it-all's who have been playing
>> >the game since over a year ago. Again, I propose
>> no political season and
>> >endorsements should really begin until after the
>> filing dates when we know
>> >who the entire cast of characters will be. I always
>> worry that we may miss
>> >the best just because they waited until last by
>> plunking down their $20 and
>> >saying they would like to be considered for an
>> elected office. It also may
>> >contribute to campaign finance reform - if the
>> pre-election cycle was
>> >shortened to be from mid-July to Sept or Nov. it
>> sure would mean that some
>> >candidate's could get their gardens planted instead
>> of being at 25 meetings
>> >during the spring which means less mailings and
>> literature to be printed (a
>> >large part of the expense of running).
>> >Food for thought,
>> It seems to me the problem is that there is no
>> opportunity for more
>> recently interested people to get involved in the
>> DFL endorsement process
>> for mayor and city council. However, I think that
>> this whole endorsement
>> process--with the insiders vs those trying to figure
>> it all out will
>> backfire on the DFL--and on Stonewall DFL and other
>> DFL affiliates. There
>> is no point for a candidate to spend time, money and
>> resources in order to
>> get Stonewall DFL endorsement, when Stonewall uses
>> question number 2: will
>> you abide by DFL endorsement as the number one
>> criteria of whether a
>> candidate will get Stonewall DFL endorsement. A
>> friend of mine mentioned
>> that Stonewall feels they have to do this, because
>> they could otherwise get
>> de-chartered from the DFL. Come on. Could you
>> imagine the publicity if
>> the DFL tried to de-charter the Stonewall DFL? Give
>> me a break.
>>
>> Eva
>> Eva Young
>> Central
>> speaking for myself, not for anyone else
>> and so-called, self-appointed Gay "leaders" often
>> don't speak for me
>>
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