The more fearful you appear, the more likely you could be targeted. In most
cases, if you strut straightforwardly without much apprehension showing, you
should be just fine. People who know or seem to know, where they're going
and walk with conviction are far less a likely target for troublemakers.

Of course the entire notion of surveillance cameras in the streets of a city
is the next slip on the slippery slope to complete and utter takeover of our
movements and lives.

Do you supporters really think it's worth the loss of your privacy to put
cameras on the street corner not knowing who's on the other end of it? Even
if you're convinced you're so pure as not to be in trouble by being watched?
We've already gone too far in allowing government intrusion into our daily
movements and transactions. If anything, we need to step back from the
monitoring and date collection already taking place.

Say no to the idea, say no to the offer. We want our lives back.

Andy Driscoll
Saint Paul

> From: Peter T Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:06:21 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Mpls] Target
> 
> After speaking out against surveillance cameras downtown, I will admit
> that I really get freaked out being downtown on Sunday nights, mainly
> because the lack of crowds makes me feel less safe when I pass several
> people who appear to be up to no good.  And for the past few years I have
> often advise those who don't get around by car to avoid downtown on
> Sunday nights.
> 
> This being acknowledge, I continue to believe that installing cameras
> downtown is a bad idea, just as building more prisons is a bad idea.
> 
> The best way to prevent crime and make all of Minneapolis safer is to
> support a full-employment based, sustainable economy that is fueled by
> local, small businesses.
> 
> Face it folks, underfunded public schools, the growing gap between the
> rich and the poor, our increasing dependance on large, unreliable
> corporate partners like Target, and City Hall's participation in a drug
> war that only serves the interests of our nation's elite make downtown
> Minneapolis less safe, not the absence of police or surveillance
> cameras.----Peter Schmitz   CARAG
> 
> On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 13:36:40 -0500 "Steven Houdek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
>> Now I have to admit that it is scarry to think that "big Brother"
>> might be 
>> watching, but in these financial tough times, I think the city
>> should accept 
>> the gift.  I have been down town for various events recently, for
>> music at 
>> First Ave; movies at Block E, and I see plenty of what I would call
>> undesirables.  I'm not sure why we do't have more of a police
>> presence in 
>> those areas, mayby for budget reasons.  But a few camera's might
>> help.
>> 
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