In a message dated 6/23/2003 6:58:38 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>  And can anyone explain how exactly I would put words in Doug's mouth by
>  quoting him? What exactly does that mean, that it's somehow my fault that
>  Doug didn't bother to research his position before making an incorrect 
claim
>  and presenting it as fact? If so, I'm sorry, Doug. I'll try to do better 
not
>  to put words in your mouth again.
>   
Why not quote my explanation about how Mr. Snyder put words in Doug's mouth?
Did I say that Mr. Snyder was putting words in my mouth by quoting me? No I 
didn't.
Once again Mr. Snyder is putting words in my mouth. This is what I said 
regarding 
Mr. Snyder putting words in my mouth:

"Here you set up a straw man by quoting me out of context -- You deleted 2 
sentences in the first half of the paragraph.-- Then you put words in my mouth 
in support of your contention that I am wrong to say that chem and bio 1001 
courses are non-credit. And you did not actually debate the point that I made in 
the paragraph from which your quote originated..."  

> Poor Doug. He gets pointed out as plain wrong about introductory chemistry
>  and biology being non-credit classes in college, so he has to try and 
divert
>  attention from his mistake by accusing me of all kinds of shenanigans about
>  quoting him out of context when all I really was doing was snipping out the
>  stuff that I wasn't responding to, just like our List Manager encourages.
>
Did our list manager also encourage us to quote out of context? You snip
out stuff that you don't want to respond to, and you respond to your
interpretation what I write, and not to what I actually write.
  
Mr. Snyder wrote that Doug wrote that introductory chemistry and biology 
classes are non-credit courses in college. If I had wrote that, I would be 
wrong. 
However, Mr. Snyder's interpretation of what I wrote is not that same as 
what I actually wrote. And Mr. Snyder's interpretation of what I wrote is not
supported by the two sentences that he deleted from the paragraph where 
he obtained his quote.   

The painful truth is that courses in English and math that most MPS students 
take are watered down versions of noncredit college courses which are they 
may 
have to take in college.   

-Doug Mann  
  
TEMPORARY REMINDER:
1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait.
2. If you don't like what's being discussed here, don't complain - change the subject 
(Mpls-specific, of course.)

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