On 7/10/03 11:07 PM, "Dyna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No great surprise...
> 
> On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 11:21 AM, List Manager wrote:
> 
>> Strib's take: 4,000 fewer people in 2002 than in 2000 - the 10th
>> biggest dip
>> in the nation. Local officials dispute it.
> 
> Here in Hawthorne the population loss is probably in the double digits
> percentage wise. Three houses on my block have sat empty and unsold for
> months now. Their each asking $130,000 and the newest is over 50 years
> old, the other two over a century old. For another $10,000 you can by a
> new house on the suburban fringe with a yard, lots more space, and way
> less crime. If you work in the suburbs anyway the commute is about the
> same.
> 
> The immigrants are leaving too. Those that can afford to are leaving
> for the inner ring suburbs or even outstate small towns. The fourplexes
> on my block used to be full of Mexican-Americans who went to work early
> in the morning and made little trouble at night. Once the drug dealers
> and hookers took over their corner most of them left. The one apartment
> building is half vacant.
> 
> Barring a more urban friendly state and national government getting
> elected these trends will continue. By 2010 Minneapolis will drop well
> below 300,000 population. Redistricting will put Minneapolis and
> St.Paul and a few suburbs in one district, making us politicly
> powerless. By 2020 Minneapolis will be the 2nd or 3rd most populous
> city in the state and pretty much geopolitically irrellevent.

[MS]

Can someone explain to me how one horribly bad situation on a single block
translates to an entire neighborhood suffering double-digit population loss?

If that's actually the case, then maybe they're all moving next door to
Jordan. When I recently visited friends that moved in on James Ave. a few
months ago, they pointed out several new neighbors on their block as well as
a foundation being dug for a new house construction. So I guess all of
Jordan is now on a tremendous upswing, huh?

Of course that's not true. Jordan still faces many challenges, as does
Hawthorne. But to draw conclusions for an entire neighborhood, good or bad,
based on what's happening on a single block is a pretty poor display of
reasoning.

Mark Snyder
Windom Park


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