I could use some advice from list members on ways to mitigate an
unintended consequence of the proposed smoking ban:

After the ban is in place, people at a restaurant or bar who want to
smoke will presumably walk outside to light up...forming the kinds of
front door smoking gatherings you see already outside office buildings.
The groups outside bars and restaurants will probably hang around longer
because they probably don't have a boss pushing them to get inside. 

This has actually set off somewhat of a trend in New York where the new
word is, if I have this right, "smurting"---smoking and
flirting---because smokers looking for partners who can tolerate the
smoke have a self selected group in that smoking line outside the front
door.

This all probably won't be such a big deal in entertainment districts,
but it could cause real problems outside bars in residential
neighborhoods like the Chatterbox or Maslack's....especially with bars
now open until 2 a.m. 

As I've said, I think the ban is going to pass...and I think on most
levels that's a good thing.   And I don't think this issue in itself is
enough of a reason not to do this but I want to address this, and see if
there is anything we can do about it, BEFORE there is a problem.

On or off list: Does anyone have any thoughts about how we can address
this issue?

(FYI: Another issue that I think we have to address before this moves
forward is consistency....This could get real crazy, real fast, if we
have a web of different ordinances in every city.  Toward that end, I'm
meeting tomorrow with a group of suburban mayors to see if there is a
way we can get on the same page.  From bars and restaurants I've talked
to, consistency with key suburbs, esp. Bloomington, St. Louis Park,
Golden Valley, Eden Prairie....is probably more important that with St.
Paul......If anyone has information or thoughts about the suburbs and
the proposed ban, please pass that along, too.) 

R.T. Rybak  
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