AGAIN! It is not what you're doing to yourself by smoking, but the violence you are doing to others that is unacceptable. It is not always a choice to be around others whose smoke is harming other people. Smoke your brains out - in your bathroom, or some such place. Not in the face of children and others who would rather eat in public restaurant without inhaling the poisons.
Thank the lord you're all in a minority of naysayers. Andy Driscoll Saint Paul -- "The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato on 10/30/05 12:15 PM, Michael Atherton wrote: > > Mark Snyder wrote: > >> To me, the foundation of this disagreement lies with whether >> exposure to secondhand smoke is actually harmful,... > > False! The fact that secondhand smoke maybe harmful > is irrelevant! We all choose to do things that are > harmful from the perspective of others. The things > we choose maybe harmful to our health, our spirits, > or our morality, but they should remain our own > choices and not be dictated by the values of other > people as long as no one else is affected by them > involuntarily. > >> Debating that is outside the realm of this forum. >> >> So how about if we just agree to disagree and find >> something else to talk about, OK? > > To come to a conclusion that is based on a false > premise, then attempt to limit debate based on > this false conclusion is implicit censorship. > I think that false assumptions and censorship > are necessary because the position you hold > is untenable and intellectually corrupt. > > Michael Atherton > Prospect Park > > > > REMINDERS: > 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If > you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. > > 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. > > For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html > For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract > ________________________________ > > Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn > E-Democracy > Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org > Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls > > REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls