I have used a couple of the products.  What I have found is that they work OK 
for finding what needs to be patched, but for actual patching, noting is that 
great.  The problem is that there is no customization of the patches at all.  
They have made the patch package so you have to take what their packager thinks 
is best.

For example, let's say you want to patch Quicktime.  Basically what the 
patching systems do is put a wrapper around the Quicktime installer from Apple 
so that the installer can be deployed via WSUS.  If you don't mind taking the 
defaults, then you are OK.  That means you get a Quicktime desktop icon and 
Apple Automatic Updates  stays enabled (or gets reenabled) among other things I 
find undesirable.  If you want to have any customization then you end up 
needing to repackage the installer/updater/patch yourself anyway.  The tool can 
help with detecting and deployment, but you still have to build the patch 
yourself.

I haven't found a patching system yet that lets you just sit back and enjoy 
patching your third party products by clicking buttons.  Even Adobe Shockwave 
and Flash I had trouble with.  We deployed these controls with the MSI version 
originally and our patching tool deploys with the EXE.  People who have patched 
these probably know what I am talking about.  The patches that are deployed 
with the patching product leave automatic updates enabled (for adobe) and 
install without the backwards compatibility included in the MSI package.  When 
I tried to check in the packaged patch from our vendor, it ended up leaving the 
MSI install and installing the EXE along side  - so two copies of Shockwave in 
Add/Remove  - not too cool.

Anyway, what I am getting at is the patch process is eased somewhat by a 
patching tool - it helps tremendously in detecting what products are out of 
date.  But it is still a lot of work and testing to actually deploy an update 
with any product.  At least with a tool you can see how many systems need 
patching for a particular software product and that can help you prioritize 
your work.  I don't think you will be able to buy something and then just start 
checking in and deploying patches.  They don't really work that way in real 
life.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Clinton Arsenault
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [mssms] SCUPDates

Secunia gave us an impressive demo at MMS2013.  We are considering purchasing 
the product, but at this point we have not, so I don't have any true experience 
with it save the demo.

http://secunia.com/

Thank you,
Have a great day



Clinton Arsenault
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Brunswick Enterprise IT
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Date:        05/09/2013 12:19 PM
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We are looking to extend our SCUP environment and we are looking at third party 
tools that integrate like Shavlik.  Can anyone make any other recommendations 
for easing the burden of applying third party updates?

Thanks,
Todd


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