they are going to have a difficult time getting the military to relinquish control. I do not see it happening. Governments will not like it either. Nor will big banks and others.
not gonna happen. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Marcum, John <[email protected]> wrote: > If Microsoft stops (since how I worded it the first time was taken out > of context I’m being careful here) providing software that can be used in a > private cloud, how will customers who simply cannot or will not run > everything in a public cloud function? > > > > Microsoft never actually “Sold software” did they? Wasn’t that really the > genius behind MS? The fact that they were actually selling you the license > not the software. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rod Trent > *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2013 1:28 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > ser vice > > > > There haven’t been complete reversals, but there have been concessions. > > > > http://windowsitpro.com/cloud/theres-no-software-devices-and-services > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Thompson, Joseph W (Joe) > *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2013 2:16 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > ser vice > > > > If it were to happen, it wouldn’t be the first time this year Microsoft > has reversed an unpopular new policy…. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Jason Sandys > *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2013 1:08 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > ser vice > > > > Just a note here. We’ve been told (the MVPs) that “Microsoft” is > monitoring feedback on this. I’m about to forward this thread (because I > mentioned it and it was requested) so please at least know that you are > being heard – that’s all I can promise though. > > > > J > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *James Mymryk > *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2013 12:49 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > ser vice > > > > Shutting down Technet is truely a disservice to IT pros and Trainers > alike. Without the cheap licensing how can you see how a product performs > over time and then be able to apply upgrade processes etc to it and the > previous version. Currently I find i'm needing to juggle 3 versions 2007, > 2012 RTM, and 2012 SP1 inorder to validate features and changes between > versions, test upgrades and Migration scenarios that come forward. R2 > coming out in the fall / winter, that will be 4th version. > > > > 2007 - Its in place, people are considering migrating from, sometimes need > to health check or special reports. > > 2012 RTM - some can't go to SP1 yet because they have systems which don't > support No execute. In addition some are deployed and need support in > migration to SP1 > > 2012 SP1 - New version, testing updates etc and use it with the other 2 to > test migrations > > > > In addition you have items you want to run through that generate a history > for software updates, installed software, software metering rules etc. > > > > No way you want to end up having to rebuild this every 6 months and to get > the same software, drives you to a MSDN Premium License to get the same > software @ $6,119.00 now that's a heavy blow. > > James > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Michael Mott > *Sent:* Monday, July 1, 2013 8:27 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > service > > > > If we can get MMS back, why cant we swell up TechNet? > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Rod Trent > *Sent:* Monday, July 01, 2013 5:38 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > service > > > > No one does. But, what alternative do you have right now? > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Michael Mott > *Sent:* Monday, July 01, 2013 5:10 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > service > > > > Not really, I don’t want to rebuild labs every 6 months…. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Rod Trent > *Sent:* Monday, July 01, 2013 5:04 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > service > > > > 6 months is a pretty long time. > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Jason Sandys > *Sent:* Monday, July 01, 2013 4:08 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > service > > > > I think the intent is for ITPros to use the 180 day evals for their own > labs. > > > > J > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Rod Trent > *Sent:* Monday, July 1, 2013 3:02 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > service > > > > There’s also the virtual labs. You no longer have to maintain special > hardware. > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Marcum, John > *Sent:* Monday, July 01, 2013 3:22 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > service > > > > Spinning up an Azure VM does not meet the requirement of MSDN software. I > can’t test on my hardware, in my data center, in my environment without > MSDN or paying for software. Microsoft is going to push this Azure crap too > hard and people are simply going to stop using MS software. People are > heavily invested in the Microsoft skillset but other than the bodies > running the systems there’s no other real dependency upon Microsoft. We > could just as easily run on open source. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Rod Trent > *Sent:* Monday, July 01, 2013 2:12 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription > service > > > > Not really, when you think about it. TechNet was used more for > downloading software than any of the other benefits. You can spin-up a > Windows Azure VM and test the same software now. No reason to have it > on-premise for testing. 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