Legally FEP has been that way since 2010 and it's on-prem. I don't see a problem with that model.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 2:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice But, you still had something physical in your hands. When you bought software, you actually owned that software. You may have bought licenses, but you also bought a license when you went to a computer store and picked the box off the shelf. In the Cloud world, you buy a timeshare. It's not yours. When your subscription is up, you either renew or stop using it, i.e., Microsoft turns the lights off. I'm kind of hoping that Microsoft will take their other apps (like Office 365) down the same road as Windows Azure VMs, i.e., when not using it, it shuts down and stops charging you. So, you can choose to buy a year subscription, or just pay by the instance. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 2:55 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice If Microsoft stops (since how I worded it the first time was taken out of context I'm being careful here) providing software that can be used in a private cloud, how will customers who simply cannot or will not run everything in a public cloud function? Microsoft never actually "Sold software" did they? Wasn't that really the genius behind MS? The fact that they were actually selling you the license not the software. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:28 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice There haven't been complete reversals, but there have been concessions. http://windowsitpro.com/cloud/theres-no-software-devices-and-services From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thompson, Joseph W (Joe) Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 2:16 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice If it were to happen, it wouldn't be the first time this year Microsoft has reversed an unpopular new policy.... From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:08 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice Just a note here. We've been told (the MVPs) that "Microsoft" is monitoring feedback on this. I'm about to forward this thread (because I mentioned it and it was requested) so please at least know that you are being heard - that's all I can promise though. J From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Mymryk Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 12:49 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription ser vice Shutting down Technet is truely a disservice to IT pros and Trainers alike. Without the cheap licensing how can you see how a product performs over time and then be able to apply upgrade processes etc to it and the previous version. Currently I find i'm needing to juggle 3 versions 2007, 2012 RTM, and 2012 SP1 inorder to validate features and changes between versions, test upgrades and Migration scenarios that come forward. R2 coming out in the fall / winter, that will be 4th version. 2007 - Its in place, people are considering migrating from, sometimes need to health check or special reports. 2012 RTM - some can't go to SP1 yet because they have systems which don't support No execute. In addition some are deployed and need support in migration to SP1 2012 SP1 - New version, testing updates etc and use it with the other 2 to test migrations In addition you have items you want to run through that generate a history for software updates, installed software, software metering rules etc. No way you want to end up having to rebuild this every 6 months and to get the same software, drives you to a MSDN Premium License to get the same software @ $6,119.00 now that's a heavy blow. James From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Mott Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 8:27 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service If we can get MMS back, why cant we swell up TechNet? From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 5:38 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service No one does. But, what alternative do you have right now? From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Mott Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 5:10 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service Not really, I don't want to rebuild labs every 6 months.... From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 5:04 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service 6 months is a pretty long time. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 4:08 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service I think the intent is for ITPros to use the 180 day evals for their own labs. J From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 3:02 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service There's also the virtual labs. You no longer have to maintain special hardware. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 3:22 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service Spinning up an Azure VM does not meet the requirement of MSDN software. I can't test on my hardware, in my data center, in my environment without MSDN or paying for software. Microsoft is going to push this Azure crap too hard and people are simply going to stop using MS software. People are heavily invested in the Microsoft skillset but other than the bodies running the systems there's no other real dependency upon Microsoft. We could just as easily run on open source. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 2:12 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Microsoft to shut down TechNet subscription service Not really, when you think about it. TechNet was used more for downloading software than any of the other benefits. You can spin-up a Windows Azure VM and test the same software now. No reason to have it on-premise for testing. Plus, the other options they are offering as replacements are all free. They are keeping MSDN, though (for a while), so you can subscribe to that if you want to download bits. 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