Well said. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:04 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite?
You really are trying to goad me onto my soapbox, aren’t you? The problem is highlighted in your text below. Fix that and we may be able to find our way back to a technical event that this group wants to attend. ☺ I’ll make this brief. We worked extremely hard for MMS each year to ensure there was enough technical content, despite it being run by marketing. That effort was a LOT of work that a lot of people don’t realize. In 2013, just prior to TechEd 2014, we lost our advocates and those left refused to listen. Result: TechEd 2014 for MMS folks was a joke. New year, brand new event – marketing still making the decisions, and we have a total of 5 events rolled into one. Ignite will be bigger and the focus is clearly on roadmap. That doesn’t hold much hope for those whose bosses demand a certain level of technical value. And, for this community, with a smattering of ConfigMgr sessions coming, they can get the same value just by gathering teams members around a desk and streaming the keynotes in the office. There’s very little hope to turn Ignite into a ConfigMgr or on-premises management heavy event no matter how much feedback is given. That’s simply not Microsoft’s focus and direction. However, that all said, it’s not all doom and gloom for me. I’m looking forward to it (mostly out of curiosity) and Ignite better represents my focus these days. But, then again, I’m not dealing with the technical issues that this community is day-in and day-out. That’s where smaller, more intimate events like the new MMS provide such a great opportunity for specific groups of people. In my opinion, Microsoft should just produce the best event it can in Ignite. Make it Microsoft’s VMWorld – because really that’s the intent: one message to the biggest crowd possible. But, give up trying to appease the communities. Instead, invest time, resources, and marketing dollars in community led events. Go where the communities are – don’t expect to be able to force them to come to you. That makes it less stressful for everyone. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Czechowski Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:26 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What a coincidence, we were just talking about “slow moving software” in this morning’s Shiproom…. To reiterate Michael’s comments, our marketing team is working on this, even talking with BradAnd, and as I hear have until 2/27 to publish. The list I’ve seen so far includes three additional sessions specific to ConfigMgr – and we’re doing what we can to get more added. At least one of those will be 300+ level (I’m the content owner – unfortunately just don’t know yet whether I’ll be presenting it…). Honestly, this is all awesome feedback. I’ve shared some of your comments verbatim with marketing and leadership so that they understand your frustrations. I definitely can’t promise that will change anything in the next several months, but I hope helps inform strategy decisions in the future. And please don’t let this put any damper on the discussion – it’s why I’ve been on this list for so many years. ☺ Aaron From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Sherry Kissinger Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:03 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Nash, don't be dissin' SMS er... SCCM er... ConfigMgr er... oh, what's your name today? On Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:56 PM, Nash Pherson <na...@nowmicro.com<mailto:na...@nowmicro.com>> wrote: ConfigMgr is being renamed “exasperating and sometimes downright obnoxious”? Microsoft EaSDO: For all your systems management needs. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Product name just hasn’t changed yet. ☺ If you want a more accurate name, look at what Microsoft calls the MVPs in that area. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Groff Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:39 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? What's in a name? Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rod Trent<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> Sent: 2/19/2015 12:13 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don’t expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There’s clear reasons behind this. Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged “editorial calendar” method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks best. I’ll leave it at that. I almost, *almost*, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.com<mailto:troy.mar...@1e.com> | www.1e.com<http://www.1e.com/> [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<http://www.1e.com/> [Blog_Bling_Connect] <http://ignite.microsoft.com/> [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal>[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<https://twitter.com/1E_Global/>[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e>[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php>[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<http://blogs.1e.com/feed/>[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Harjit Dhaliwal Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will be attending the conference. -Harjit On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: Hey Ivan, If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several reasons). Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. //A From: mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Troy Martin Sent: den 19 februari 2015 17:24 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? Hey Ivan, Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ Thanks ☺ Troy L. Martin | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation Provision software, not infrastructure US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 troy.mar...@1e.com<mailto:troy.mar...@1e.com> | www.1e.com<http://www.1e.com/> [cid:image003.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<http://www.1e.com/> [Blog_Bling_Connect] <http://ignite.microsoft.com/> [cid:image010.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal>[cid:image011.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<https://twitter.com/1E_Global/>[cid:image012.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e>[cid:image013.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php>[cid:image014.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<http://blogs.1e.com/feed/>[cid:image015.png@01D0422A.F408EE30]<https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts> From: mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make sure hunting will be rich. We don’t see a vendor list on the Ignite web site. It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. Thanks for any pointers. Ivan Lindenfeld NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. 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