Guys, let's not bash these conference bags. Some of us look forward to them very much (I don't have one yet :( )!
I've also got to say based on what I've seen from the Channel 9 / TechEd videos. There was some seriously great and juicy stuff from previous TechEd's, some of which helped shape my SCCM knowledge (Niehaus, your's from TechEd were AWESOME!). You can really see a decline in that content volume recently. I think everyone has said it already, there is a lot that MS is transitioning too. I'm trying to interpret these marketing and materials changes to understand what MS will be pushing in the years to come. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Michael Niehaus < [email protected]> wrote: > My personal opinion, not Microsoft’s J > > > > I agree very much with the highlighted parts below. But just because it’s > a forward-looking event focused on roadmap and where everything is going, > that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a community aspect. Just expect the > community aspect to be more like The Krewe (probably 90% social/networking) > than like MyITForum (probably 70% technical conversation/how-to, 30% > social/networking). > > > > Where I tend to disagree with people is in regards to the bashing of > Ignite/TechEd/other large Microsoft events. Ignite has its place, and for > those that focus on what’s next, it should be considered essential – at > least acknowledge that. And that’s not for everyone. For those that live > in the here-and-now, well, then maybe you should consider events that focus > more on the here-and-now: training on current versions, troubleshooting > and notes-from-the-field with live releases, compare notes with like-minded > (and similarly challenged) individuals, etc. (For those of you running > those events, please focus on the position: Market your events based on > their strengths, not by comparing yourself to Ignite.) > > > > I’ve been campaigning for more ConfigMgr sessions too, but even if these > come I wouldn’t expect them to spend much time on existing releases, except > to talk about how they are changing, how you can upgrade, new > features/roadmap, etc. If you really want to know how to better use the > ConfigMgr app model that hasn’t changed much since 2012, or how to best > deploy OS updates to Windows 7, well, we’ve got session recordings on > Channel 9 that already cover that J > > > > When I was in enterprise IT (granted, that was over 11 years ago now), I > considered TechEd to be the one must-attend conference each year. That > reflected what I did: I was an enterprise infrastructure and desktop > architect, responsible for a variety of Microsoft-related technologies, and > it was the only place where I could find out where I needed to be heading > (for my company) in the coming year. Ignite continues in that tradition. > > > > Thanks, > > -Michael > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rod Trent > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:04 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > You really are trying to goad me onto my soapbox, aren’t you? > > > > The problem is highlighted in your text below. Fix that and we may be able > to find our way back to a technical event that this group wants to attend. > J > > > > I’ll make this brief. > > > > We worked extremely hard for MMS each year to ensure there was enough > technical content, despite it being run by marketing. That effort was a LOT > of work that a lot of people don’t realize. In 2013, just prior to TechEd > 2014, we lost our advocates and those left refused to listen. Result: > TechEd 2014 for MMS folks was a joke. > > > > New year, brand new event – marketing still making the decisions, and we > have a total of 5 events rolled into one. Ignite will be bigger and the > focus is clearly on roadmap. That doesn’t hold much hope for those whose > bosses demand a certain level of technical value. And, for this community, > with a smattering of ConfigMgr sessions coming, they can get the same value > just by gathering teams members around a desk and streaming the keynotes in > the office. > > > > There’s very little hope to turn Ignite into a ConfigMgr or on-premises > management heavy event no matter how much feedback is given. That’s simply > not Microsoft’s focus and direction. > > > > However, that all said, it’s not all doom and gloom for me. I’m looking > forward to it (mostly out of curiosity) and Ignite better represents my > focus these days. But, then again, I’m not dealing with the technical > issues that this community is day-in and day-out. > > > > That’s where smaller, more intimate events like the new MMS provide such a > great opportunity for specific groups of people. In my opinion, Microsoft > should just produce the best event it can in Ignite. Make it Microsoft’s > VMWorld – because really that’s the intent: one message to the biggest > crowd possible. But, give up trying to appease the communities. Instead, > invest time, resources, and *marketing* *dollars* in community led > events. Go where the communities are – don’t expect to be able to force > them to come to you. That makes it less stressful for everyone. > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Aaron Czechowski > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:26 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > What a coincidence, we were just talking about “slow moving software” in > this morning’s Shiproom…. > > > > To reiterate Michael’s comments, our *marketing* team is working on this, > even talking with BradAnd, and as I hear have until 2/27 to publish. The > list I’ve seen so far includes three additional sessions specific to > ConfigMgr – and we’re doing what we can to get more added. At least one of > those will be 300+ level (I’m the content owner – unfortunately just don’t > know yet whether I’ll be *presenting* it…). > > > > Honestly, this is all awesome feedback. I’ve shared some of your comments > verbatim with *marketing* and leadership so that they understand your > frustrations. I definitely can’t promise that will change anything in the > next several months, but I hope helps inform strategy decisions in the > future. And please don’t let this put any damper on the discussion – it’s > why I’ve been on this list for so many years. J > > > > Aaron > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Sherry Kissinger > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:03 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Nash, don't be dissin' SMS > > er... SCCM > > er... ConfigMgr > > er... oh, what's your name today? > > > > > > > > On Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:56 PM, Nash Pherson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > ConfigMgr is being renamed “exasperating and sometimes downright > obnoxious”? > > > > Microsoft EaSDO: For all your systems management needs. > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Rod Trent > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Product name just hasn’t changed yet. J > > > > If you want a more accurate name, look at what Microsoft calls the MVPs in > that area. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Eric Groff > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:39 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > What's in a name? > > Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > *From: *Rod Trent <[email protected]> > > *Sent: *2/19/2015 12:13 > *To: *[email protected] > *Subject: *RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > More will be added for System Center and Server. That much is true. > > > > However, when I was told that, I was also told that Configuration Manager > is not really considered to be part of System Center any longer. So, don’t > expect many more ConfigMgr sessions to post. There’s clear reasons behind > this. > > > > Also consider that Ignite now uses a sort of aged “editorial calendar” > method for sessions. Microsoft has the decks with the proper messaging, and > then the Ignite teams will source the speakers they believe fit the decks > best. I’ll leave it at that. > > > > I almost, **almost**, went off on a soapbox tangent for both preceding > paragraphs. But, you all are smart enough to figure it out. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Troy Martin > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:45 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > As of Saturday, 5 ConfigMgr sessions - http://bit.ly/1Etbsab > > > > > > *Troy L. Martin* | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation > > *Provision software, not infrastructure* > > US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 > > UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 > > [email protected] | www.1e.com > > > > [image: cid:[email protected]] <http://www.1e.com/> [image: > Blog_Bling_Connect] <http://ignite.microsoft.com/> > > [image: cid:[email protected]] > <https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal>[image: > cid:[email protected]] <https://twitter.com/1E_Global/>[image: > cid:[email protected]] > <http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e>[image: > cid:[email protected]] <http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php>[image: > cid:[email protected]] <http://blogs.1e.com/feed/>[image: > cid:[email protected]] > <https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts> > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Harjit Dhaliwal > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:44 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > I think you are being a little swift with your assumptions. The full > session catalog has not been completed and Ignite has mentioned that they > are going to be adding much more to the catalog including System Center > stuff. There are quite a few of us from the ConfigMgr community who will > be attending the conference. > > -Harjit > > On 2/19/2015 11:36 AM, Andreas Hammarskjöld wrote: > > Hey Ivan, > > > > If you are looking for ConfigMgr integration Ignite might not be your best > place to hunt. The total lack of ConfigMgr sessions have led to the > ConfigMgr community already renamed the conference MS Ignore (for several > reasons). > > > > Might change, although unlikely, but damage is already done. > > > > //A > > > > *From:* mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Troy Martin > *Sent:* den 19 februari 2015 17:24 > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [mssms] RE: (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > Hey Ivan, > > > > Have them stop by the 1E booth. In the meantime, check out our site - > http://www.1e.com/appclarity-software-asset-management/ > > > > > > Thanks J > > > > *Troy L. Martin* | Product Manager, Endpoint Automation > > *Provision software, not infrastructure* > > US Mobile: +1 (678) 898-6147 > > UK Phone : +44 208 326 9141 > > [email protected] | www.1e.com > > > > [image: cid:[email protected]] <http://www.1e.com/> [image: > Blog_Bling_Connect] <http://ignite.microsoft.com/> > > [image: cid:[email protected]] > <https://www.facebook.com/1Eglobal>[image: > cid:[email protected]] <https://twitter.com/1E_Global/>[image: > cid:[email protected]] > <http://www.linkedin.com/company/1e>[image: > cid:[email protected]] <http://www.1e.com/blogs/index.php>[image: > cid:[email protected]] <http://blogs.1e.com/feed/>[image: > cid:[email protected]] > <https://plus.google.com/+1EGlobal/posts> > > > > *From:* mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Lindenfeld, Ivan > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:57 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [mssms] (OT) Vendor list for Ignite? > > > > I have a colleague in the ITAM space wanting to shop but needs to make > sure hunting will be rich. We don’t see a vendor list on the Ignite web > site. > > > > It would go a long way toward justifying the trip. > > > > Thanks for any pointers. > > > > Ivan Lindenfeld > > > > NOTICE: The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or > confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient > of this communication, you are hereby notified to: (i) delete the message > and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any > manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. > > > > > > > > Legal Notice: This email is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is > addressed. If you are not an intended recipient and have received this > message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this > email or calling +44(0) 2083269015 (UK) or +1 866 592 4214 (USA). This > email and any attachments may be privileged and/or confidential. 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