Maarten ter Huurne wrote:
> Ofcourse the specs will be free. However, I think it would be a waste of
> time to produce a separate implementation of the toolkit for every system.

I meant different toolkits for different systems. Yes,
it may be a waste of time, but may happen anyway. `:)

> Compiling console apps on both systems is possible. But I'm not sure about
> GUI toolkits. There is a GTK port for Windows, but judging by the web page

Well, you really don't need much from the interface
in this kind of apps. I can't name the libraries right
now, but I'm sure there are some.

> it's not release quality yet. Besides, GTK is plain C. Qt for Windows is
> good, but it's not free, so useless for us unless someone has any cash to
> donate.

I wasn't thinking on a GUI. Does Java's GUI
implementation is consistent across platforms?

> It is possible to use a lower level library, like GGI or SDL, but then
> we'd have to write all the GUI stuff ourselves. Disadvantages: more work
> and look-and-feel do not match the OS it's running on.

I think it's not possible to port an app and
maintain the same GUI look-and-feel. I never
saw an app entirely in Java, so I can't tell
about Java.

> And don't forget Mac users, they can use Java but I think some cross
> platform libraries may not be available on the Mac.

I considered it, but never saw anybody talking
about Mac here, then I assumed there are no Mac
users in this list. <:)

> > I may be biased here, because I really hate Java. `:]
> Why?

Can't explain very well. But I misworded my
phrase. I don't really hate Java, I just don't
like it. I think it just feels strange. But I'm
not a (good) programmer anyway.

I really hate Cobol. `:)))

> I can imagine if you hate the many useless applets that are on the web today
> (most either don't add anything to the page or don't work well). But that
> isn't an argument against the language itself.

I hate those, too. ^^ But I agree: there must
be, somewhere, some well-made Java app. `:)

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