But it may be that Gemplus is making this distinction, since my
invoice only says "NON-FIPS".

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:07:05 -0500, David Corcoran
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nope, that is not the distinction.  I was just telling you the card
> that you wanted to get ....
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 27, 2004, at 1:57 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote:
> 
> > But I think what Dave is telling me is that Gemplus distinguishes
> > between the cards that have the dual ATRs by calling them "FIPS" or
> > "NON-FIPS"--don't ask me why.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:52:37 -0700, Peter Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> FIPS (140-1 or 140-2) makes no difference.A GSM card with 2 ATRs can
> >> be
> >> FIPS-accredited. The FIPS 140-1 only address the crypto boundary, not
> >> the
> >> 7816 conformance.
> >>
> >> You just need cards targetted for PCs.
> >>
> >>> From: Carl Youngblood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], MUSCLE  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: David Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> CC: MUSCLE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Subject: [Muscle] Re: your G+ card
> >>> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:40:00 -0700
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, I just noticed on my invoice that it says GEMXPRESSO PRO 64K PK
> >>> NON-FIPS SC.  I didn't realize that FIPS made a difference in this
> >>> case.  I have called them and they are going to send me out the right
> >>> kind of cards this time.
> >>>
> >>> I'm surprised that nobody on the list caught this problem earlier.  I
> >>> guess the next time somebody is complaining of similar symptoms we
> >>> will know what to tell them.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Carl
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:31:46 -0500, David Corcoran
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> Well, they sent you some GSM/3G cards.  The cards you want are:
> >>>> GemXpresso Pro 64K - FIPS - 0703 or something like that .....
> >>>> I would contact them and tell them they sent you dual ATR cards for
> >>>> 3G/GSM phones and that is not what you wanted ....
> >>>>
> >>>> Unfortunately, the smart card industry hasn't figured out how to
> >>>> portray their version control/revisions to their customers so you
> >>>> are
> >>>> stuck with a card that is called the Cyberflex or the GemXPresso Pro
> >>>> but there could be 100's of configurations of them ....
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 27, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I told them to send me the GemXpresso Pro 64K card.  Is there more
> >>>>> than one type of this card?  I also explained to the technical rep.
> >>>>> that I was intending to load the muscle applet on it, so I don't
> >>>>> know
> >>>>> why he would have given me the wrong card.  Are there any visible
> >>>>> differences that will allow me to distinguish between the two
> >>>>> types of
> >>>>> cards?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:57:37 -0500, David Corcoran
> >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Carl,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, this seems like a 3G/GSM combo card that you have (with the
> >>>>>> dual
> >>>>>> ATR) - since these are meant to work in phones they don't have to
> >>> deal
> >>>>>> with simultaneous application access.
> >>>>>> Any reason why this card was chosen rather than the standard
> >>>>>> Gemplus
> >>>>>> FIPS 64k Java Card ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dave
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