Sorry, I probably shouldn't characterize this situation as "even weirder." I guess it just means that the older cards I have had lying around are the same kind as the new ones I have. No wonder I have been having no end of problems trying to get this stuff to work. The problem is that the cards sort of work, but not all the way.
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:31:03 -0700, Carl Youngblood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, now it gets even weirder. I have some old GemXpresso Pro 64K > cards lying around. I just installed the latest applet on them and > they are experiencing the same problems as the new cards. I don't > know if these are the FIPS/NON-FIPS type of cards. All I know is that > they say "GemXpresso Pro-Std. 1002" on the bottom of them. > > So what you are telling me is that if I get the FIPS type of card, all > my problems will be solved? If FIPS/NON-FIPS doesn't apply here, how > can I be sure that getting the FIPS card will help anything? > > Carl > > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:24:10 -0500, David Corcoran > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My guess is that they screwed up and sent you the wrong cards. FIPS / > > NON-FIPS won't have any > > affect on the dual or single ATR thing .... > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 2004, at 2:18 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote: > > > > > But it may be that Gemplus is making this distinction, since my > > > invoice only says "NON-FIPS". > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:07:05 -0500, David Corcoran > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Nope, that is not the distinction. I was just telling you the card > > >> that you wanted to get .... > > >> > > >> Dave > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Jul 27, 2004, at 1:57 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote: > > >> > > >>> But I think what Dave is telling me is that Gemplus distinguishes > > >>> between the cards that have the dual ATRs by calling them "FIPS" or > > >>> "NON-FIPS"--don't ask me why. > > >>> > > >>> Carl > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:52:37 -0700, Peter Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> FIPS (140-1 or 140-2) makes no difference.A GSM card with 2 ATRs can > > >>>> be > > >>>> FIPS-accredited. The FIPS 140-1 only address the crypto boundary, > > >>>> not > > >>>> the > > >>>> 7816 conformance. > > >>>> > > >>>> You just need cards targetted for PCs. > > >>>> > > >>>>> From: Carl Youngblood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], MUSCLE > > >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> To: David Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> CC: MUSCLE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>> Subject: [Muscle] Re: your G+ card > > >>>>> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:40:00 -0700 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Yeah, I just noticed on my invoice that it says GEMXPRESSO PRO 64K > > >>>>> PK > > >>>>> NON-FIPS SC. I didn't realize that FIPS made a difference in this > > >>>>> case. I have called them and they are going to send me out the > > >>>>> right > > >>>>> kind of cards this time. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I'm surprised that nobody on the list caught this problem earlier. > > >>>>> I > > >>>>> guess the next time somebody is complaining of similar symptoms we > > >>>>> will know what to tell them. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>> Carl > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:31:46 -0500, David Corcoran > > >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>>>> Well, they sent you some GSM/3G cards. The cards you want are: > > >>>>>> GemXpresso Pro 64K - FIPS - 0703 or something like that ..... > > >>>>>> I would contact them and tell them they sent you dual ATR cards > > >>>>>> for > > >>>>>> 3G/GSM phones and that is not what you wanted .... > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Unfortunately, the smart card industry hasn't figured out how to > > >>>>>> portray their version control/revisions to their customers so you > > >>>>>> are > > >>>>>> stuck with a card that is called the Cyberflex or the GemXPresso > > >>>>>> Pro > > >>>>>> but there could be 100's of configurations of them .... > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dave > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Jul 27, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I told them to send me the GemXpresso Pro 64K card. Is there > > >>>>>>> more > > >>>>>>> than one type of this card? I also explained to the technical > > >>>>>>> rep. > > >>>>>>> that I was intending to load the muscle applet on it, so I don't > > >>>>>>> know > > >>>>>>> why he would have given me the wrong card. Are there any visible > > >>>>>>> differences that will allow me to distinguish between the two > > >>>>>>> types of > > >>>>>>> cards? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:57:37 -0500, David Corcoran > > >>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> Hi Carl, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Yes, this seems like a 3G/GSM combo card that you have (with the > > >>>>>>>> dual > > >>>>>>>> ATR) - since these are meant to work in phones they don't have > > >>>>>>>> to > > >>>>> deal > > >>>>>>>> with simultaneous application access. > > >>>>>>>> Any reason why this card was chosen rather than the standard > > >>>>>>>> Gemplus > > >>>>>>>> FIPS 64k Java Card ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Dave > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> Muscle mailing list > > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Muscle mailing list > > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>> http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle > > >>>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Muscle mailing list > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle > > >>> > > >>> > > >> ********************************************************************** > > >> ** > > >> ***** > > >> David Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Identity Alliance [http://www.identityalliance.com] > > >> Smart Cards, Biometrics, Training, Identity Management > > >> ********************************************************************** > > >> ** > > >> ***** > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************ > > ***** > > David Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Identity Alliance [http://www.identityalliance.com] > > Smart Cards, Biometrics, Training, Identity Management > > ************************************************************************ > > ***** > > > > > _______________________________________________ Muscle mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle
