Okay, now it gets even weirder. I have some old GemXpresso Pro 64K cards lying around. I just installed the latest applet on them and they are experiencing the same problems as the new cards. I don't know if these are the FIPS/NON-FIPS type of cards. All I know is that they say "GemXpresso Pro-Std. 1002" on the bottom of them.
So what you are telling me is that if I get the FIPS type of card, all my problems will be solved? If FIPS/NON-FIPS doesn't apply here, how can I be sure that getting the FIPS card will help anything? Carl On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:24:10 -0500, David Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My guess is that they screwed up and sent you the wrong cards. FIPS / > NON-FIPS won't have any > affect on the dual or single ATR thing .... > > Dave > > > > > On Jul 27, 2004, at 2:18 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote: > > > But it may be that Gemplus is making this distinction, since my > > invoice only says "NON-FIPS". > > > > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:07:05 -0500, David Corcoran > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Nope, that is not the distinction. I was just telling you the card > >> that you wanted to get .... > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Jul 27, 2004, at 1:57 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote: > >> > >>> But I think what Dave is telling me is that Gemplus distinguishes > >>> between the cards that have the dual ATRs by calling them "FIPS" or > >>> "NON-FIPS"--don't ask me why. > >>> > >>> Carl > >>> > >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:52:37 -0700, Peter Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> FIPS (140-1 or 140-2) makes no difference.A GSM card with 2 ATRs can > >>>> be > >>>> FIPS-accredited. The FIPS 140-1 only address the crypto boundary, > >>>> not > >>>> the > >>>> 7816 conformance. > >>>> > >>>> You just need cards targetted for PCs. > >>>> > >>>>> From: Carl Youngblood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], MUSCLE > >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> To: David Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> CC: MUSCLE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> Subject: [Muscle] Re: your G+ card > >>>>> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:40:00 -0700 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Yeah, I just noticed on my invoice that it says GEMXPRESSO PRO 64K > >>>>> PK > >>>>> NON-FIPS SC. I didn't realize that FIPS made a difference in this > >>>>> case. I have called them and they are going to send me out the > >>>>> right > >>>>> kind of cards this time. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm surprised that nobody on the list caught this problem earlier. > >>>>> I > >>>>> guess the next time somebody is complaining of similar symptoms we > >>>>> will know what to tell them. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Carl > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:31:46 -0500, David Corcoran > >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>> Well, they sent you some GSM/3G cards. The cards you want are: > >>>>>> GemXpresso Pro 64K - FIPS - 0703 or something like that ..... > >>>>>> I would contact them and tell them they sent you dual ATR cards > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> 3G/GSM phones and that is not what you wanted .... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Unfortunately, the smart card industry hasn't figured out how to > >>>>>> portray their version control/revisions to their customers so you > >>>>>> are > >>>>>> stuck with a card that is called the Cyberflex or the GemXPresso > >>>>>> Pro > >>>>>> but there could be 100's of configurations of them .... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dave > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Jul 27, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I told them to send me the GemXpresso Pro 64K card. Is there > >>>>>>> more > >>>>>>> than one type of this card? I also explained to the technical > >>>>>>> rep. > >>>>>>> that I was intending to load the muscle applet on it, so I don't > >>>>>>> know > >>>>>>> why he would have given me the wrong card. Are there any visible > >>>>>>> differences that will allow me to distinguish between the two > >>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>> cards? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:57:37 -0500, David Corcoran > >>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Hi Carl, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yes, this seems like a 3G/GSM combo card that you have (with the > >>>>>>>> dual > >>>>>>>> ATR) - since these are meant to work in phones they don't have > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>> deal > >>>>>>>> with simultaneous application access. > >>>>>>>> Any reason why this card was chosen rather than the standard > >>>>>>>> Gemplus > >>>>>>>> FIPS 64k Java Card ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dave > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Muscle mailing list > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Muscle mailing list > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Muscle mailing list > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle > >>> > >>> > >> ********************************************************************** > >> ** > >> ***** > >> David Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Identity Alliance [http://www.identityalliance.com] > >> Smart Cards, Biometrics, Training, Identity Management > >> ********************************************************************** > >> ** > >> ***** > >> > >> > > > > > ************************************************************************ > ***** > David Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Identity Alliance [http://www.identityalliance.com] > Smart Cards, Biometrics, Training, Identity Management > ************************************************************************ > ***** > > _______________________________________________ Muscle mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle
