On Wed, Jan 07, 2026 at 03:40:19PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote:
> I think
> anyone who works in any kind of modern software / technology
> organization _or_ works with open source a lot, is pretty familiar with
> these sorts of tools.

That's a fairly broad assumption.  Literally 98% of the development work I do
requires at most cvs and doesn't go anywhere near the aforementioned
'development platforms'.

> And, the issue tracking portion is useful as well
> - IMO, having "flea" (which now appears to just have people submit via
> GitLab) go back to posting to a mailing list would be pretty difficult
> in terms of tracking and scalability.

Issue tracking in a mailing-list based development environment is perfectly
plausible and practical.  Look at how NetBSD integrates a GNATS database with
mailing list discussions, for example.

> And, at a simpler level, if someone wants to be able to propose a simple
> change (correcting a typo, say), this also makes it easy for someone to
> do that.

It's only really easier than creating a three-line diff if the person either
doesn't have the source code on their local machine, or if they are not
familiar with diff and patch.

Worse still, it usually makes it _harder_ for other people to casually review
the proposed change.  Instead of looking at a single screenful of text in
mutt, I've got to fire up a web browser and start clicking around the web
interface of a development platform.

In reality, I'd probably just ignore the proposed change and hope that
somebody else reviews it.

At the end of the day, we seem to have observed the mutt development community
dry up somewhat after the move away from list-based development.  So there
seems to be some evidence that it's hurt this project, unless the timing was
pure co-incidence.

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