On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:23:05 +0200, "Stephan Seitz" wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 09:07:13AM -0700, Tim Freedom wrote: > > If someone would like to use utf-8 irrespective of the locale > > setting, he/she ought to be able to do that, no ? There are lots of > > Maybe I don't understand you, but how can a textmode application like > mutt or vim, which depends on the fonts of the xterm or the console, > use UTF-8 if they couldn't properly display the characters? > > I start mutt from xbuffy with the following script: > > #!/bin/bash > export SHELL=/bin/bash > export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 > export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 # for Japanese input via XIM > > /usr/bin/X11/xterm -u8 -fn > "-misc-fixed-medium-*-normal-*-18-120-100-100-c-*-iso10646-1" \ > -geometry 110x44+0+0 -bg black -fg white -T Mutt -e mutt -F \ > /etc/Muttrc -F /home/fsing/stse/.mutt/muttrc.x11 "$@" > > So I'm running mutt within an UTF-8 xterm without having the global > locale set to UTF-8.
Well, you are setting a locale (LANG, LC_CTYPE); its not global, sure - but its being set :-) Let me explain what I'm getting at via a simple example. Download vim-6.1+ and compile it. Then without having to do _anything_ you will be able to view/compose/etc a utf-8 (both in graphical mode and/or in a UTF-8 terminal emulator). So what happens if you start that same vim binary on a non-UTF-8 xterm ? vim is smart to note that UTF-8 is not-supported and beep at yeah. That's pretty much all I'm advocating. I have no problem setting the locale myself, but most applications out there are simply reverting to native, default UTF-8 support and thus the question/suggestion. .tf. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com