Jon - tried that after you suggested it (thanks!), couple of
observations:

1. You can collapse and expand the the pages, but doesn't quite give
the visual appeal of seeing a page at a time and the satisfaction of a
reducing number of tasks. So, I still prefer the Page 1, 2...contexts
and going through them is like flipping the page;

2. Not sure whether it works as well with your set up, but I find that
shutting down the software for the day and firing it up again later
brings me back to the page and position I was on, thus allowing me to
continue the pass through the pages from where I left off (as Mark
Forster recommends we do after a break period).

Both the above are more personal preferences than anything else, but
really MLO works like a charm on AF.

Steve, just wondering about your pre-numbered templates, when you
start a new page. Seems to me copying a task (eg unfinished or
recurring task)  wont allow you to drop it on your desired location
(as the number itself is a task) on the last page, so you need to drop
it as a sibling and then re-number it. So I don't prenumber the items,
just add them as I go along to the bottom of the list. Wonder if you
experienced that?

Thanks/JD



On Jan 7, 6:27 am, Kudos <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steve, I'm sure it's easy to duplicate a task and increment the
> number.. :)  But I don't understand why associated contexts would be
> beneficial.. Why not just have a context 'AutoFocus' with all pages
> and tasks set to it. Then set up the To-Do filter to group tasks by
> Parent. Then you can just expand/collapse pages in your To-Do
> filter..?
>
> Jon
>
> On Jan 6, 9:32 pm, "Steve Wynn" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Guys,
>
> > I have kept it really really simple (I added the numbers just for ease of 
> > use) so in the template I have a blank page with 1-25 blank items already 
> > created. Typically it looks like this,
>
> > Page
> > |__ 1.
> > |__ 2.
> > |__ 3. ...
> > |__ 25.
>
> > This is set to no context.  Once I add a page I number it and create a 
> > context plus view,
>
> > Page 1   (Hide this task only in ToDo - context set to Page 1 - view set 
> > hide header show all tasks) View called Page1
> > |___ 1. Review Mark Forster Autofocus system - highlight important points
> > |___ 2. Batch Process Email
> > |___ 3. Process MLO Club emails
> > |___ .....
> > |___ 25. Update Anti-Virus
>
> > Page 2  (Hide this task only in ToDo - context set to Page 2 - view set 
> > hide header show all tasks) View called Page2
> > |___ 1. Email DIT group about Autofocus system
> > |___ 2. Reply to email on MLO group re Autofocus :)
> > |___ 3. ........
>
> > I just complete the tasks if they are done - highlight them if they are 
> > discarded. At the moment I find it easier to switch to the Outline view to 
> > add another entry to the last page. Then switch back to my existing page 
> > view. Though I am wondering about RTE I might just add them to the inbox 
> > and move them, not sure yet.
>
> > I have 5 active pages - 10 created.  Using a blank template and replicating 
> > views it takes only a few seconds to add another page.  As far as 
> > understand with the Autofocus system a page in itself can be completed. So 
> > eventually Page 1 could be removed etc.   I think the general idea is to 
> > treat each page as it's own separate unit.
>
> > There is obviously a certain overhead in maintenance terms creating the 
> > pages but as mentioned utilising a portion of the outline as a template is 
> > quick.  Just creating the views/contexts takes a little time but it is 
> > minimal if you use existing views.  Probably works best to do so many pages 
> > in batches.
>
> > Now it did occur to me that some clever sole here - which there are many - 
> > might be able to work out an easy scripted/automated way of duplicating the 
> > same blank list and incrementing the page numbers in context and view? If 
> > that is possible of course.  Ideally it would be nice to state create - 
> > pages 10 to 20, 20 to 30 or something along those lines.
>
> > All the best
>
> > Steve
>
> > ----- Original message ----------------------------------------
> > From: Kudos <[email protected]>
> > To: MyLifeOrganized <[email protected]>
>
> > Received: 06/01/2009 15:29:05
> > Subject: [MLO] Re: Mark Forster - Autofocus System - MLO requirements
>
> > >JD & olejorik,
>
> > >Surely it's a lot easier to separate out items. I think
> > >what Steve
> > >meant in his original post is something like this:
>
> > >Create parent items in the your Outline called 'Page 1',
> > >'Page 2' etc.
> > >Set the To-Do list view to group by task parent first.
> > >Set To-Do list filter to show All tasks (including
> > >complete).
>
> > >Steve, thanks for the tip about AFTM.. I'm trying it
> > >out on paper at
> > >the moment.. Not sure if I can say goodbye to my To-Do
> > >list in MLO but
> > >we'll see!
>
> > >Jon
>
> > >On Jan 6, 10:06 am, JD <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> Hi Steve,
>
> > >> I signed up as a tester of the AF system and I started
> > >today on paper
> > >> (as suggested) and your post has dragged me into
> > >thinking about it in
> > >> electronic terms sooner than I expected it to. I mean
> > >that in the
> > >> nicest possible way :)  Yes, I did start with Page 1,
> > >Page 2 lists,
> > >> and bumped that up in my context list with an ! mark.
> > >That way all the
> > >> pages appear at the top of my context lists.  The
> > >strike through
> > >> allows you to delete incomplete tasks and move them to
> > >the last page
> > >> via the copy function.  As far as I can see, copying it
> > >doesn't allow
> > >> you to inherit the context, so I have to replace the
> > >context when
> > >> copying to the last page. The cool thing though is that
> > >copying to the
> > >> last page doesn't carry the strikethrough format
> > >across, so your task
> > >> appears neatly as an incomplete task at the end of
> > >your list.
>
> > >> Basically, I intend to allow the screen to fill up with
> > >tasks, perhaps
> > >> limiting them to 30 or so, before creating a new
> > >context page.
>
> > >> Just some of my initial thoughts on using MLO to work
> > >the AF system.
>
> > >> Cheers/JD
>
> > >> On Jan 5, 11:28 pm, "Steve Wynn"
> > ><[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> > Mark Forster has just unveiled his Autofocus system
> > >- and to be perfectly honest it lends itself to MLO
> > >quite well because it is just a long list.  But here is the
> > >issue as far as MLO is concerned - the long list needs to
> > >be split into pages. The ideal tool cited is a notebook
> > >with between 25 - 35 lines.   You basically work on a
> > >page at a time moving forwards and backwards.
>
> > >> > As far as MLO is concerned all I think that is
> > >required is a way to segment a large list -  ideally into
> > >pages (similar in a way to Pocket Mod print).   Perhaps
> > >the page setup could be customised to display x number
> > >of items - dependant on user specified line lengths/item
> > >count.  A simple forward and back page turn of some
> > >description would also be required. Order should be
> > >based on creation date/time.  Another requirement is
> > >the use of a highlighter to mark items as dismissed - this
> > >can easily be achieved by the new colour coding .
>
> > >> > At the moment I can probably replicate the
> > >requirements by creating separate Page 1, Page 2 type
> > >lists with associated contexts and views - this may even
> > >turn out to be the best option!  But it would be simpler
> > >if there was a way within MLO to create one big list
> > >that was automatically split into pages.  
>
> > >> > All the best
>
> > >> > Steve
>
> > >> >  big_grin.gif
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