this all seems like a lot of work - why? Is this really making you more productive?
On 9 Jan, 12:30, "Steve Wynn" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi JD, > > I also tried the suggestion from Jon, it is another option that can be > utilised. But I also didn't get the feel of a page being a separate unit, due > to the grouping. There is nothing wrong with the approach and it may suit > some people - like you say it is just a matter of personal preference I think. > > I have dropped the numbers - mainly so I can use RTE to add tasks to my last > page. I actually found the numbers to be a bit of an issue I think it was > because it signified a set order. Dropping the numbers makes the list feel > more fluid. > > I also confirm MLO is an ideal tool for Autofocus, I have tried other things > as well. I posted to the discussion forum about using GoalEnforcer - a visual > bubble map approach - but that is limited on visual list size. Mark Forster > mentioned that he seemed to get more out of the system by increasing the size > of page and not reducing it. I gave it a quick try with just 7 tasks per > page in GoalEnforcer - but it didn't work. It does appear that a reasonably > large list suits the system better. So I am up to about 30 tasks per page > now and the system is going well. > > All the best > > Steve > > ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- > From: JD <[email protected]> > To: MyLifeOrganized <[email protected]> > > Received: 08/01/2009 03:26:50 > Subject: [MLO] Re: Mark Forster - Autofocus System - MLO requirements > > >Jon - tried that after you suggested it (thanks!), couple > >of > >observations: > > >1. You can collapse and expand the the pages, but > >doesn't quite give > >the visual appeal of seeing a page at a time and the > >satisfaction of a > >reducing number of tasks. So, I still prefer the Page 1, > >2...contexts > >and going through them is like flipping the page; > > >2. Not sure whether it works as well with your set up, > >but I find that > >shutting down the software for the day and firing it up > >again later > >brings me back to the page and position I was on, thus > >allowing me to > >continue the pass through the pages from where I left > >off (as Mark > >Forster recommends we do after a break period). > > >Both the above are more personal preferences than > >anything else, but > >really MLO works like a charm on AF. > > >Steve, just wondering about your pre-numbered > >templates, when you > >start a new page. Seems to me copying a task (eg > >unfinished or > >recurring task) wont allow you to drop it on your > >desired location > >(as the number itself is a task) on the last page, so you > >need to drop > >it as a sibling and then re-number it. So I don't > >prenumber the items, > >just add them as I go along to the bottom of the list. > >Wonder if you > >experienced that? > > >Thanks/JD > > >On Jan 7, 6:27 am, Kudos <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Steve, I'm sure it's easy to duplicate a task and > >increment the > >> number.. :) But I don't understand why associated > >contexts would be > >> beneficial.. Why not just have a context 'AutoFocus' > >with all pages > >> and tasks set to it. Then set up the To-Do filter to > >group tasks by > >> Parent. Then you can just expand/collapse pages in > >your To-Do > >> filter..? > > >> Jon > > >> On Jan 6, 9:32 pm, "Steve Wynn" > ><[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> > Hi Guys, > > >> > I have kept it really really simple (I added the > >numbers just for ease of use) so in the template I have > >a blank page with 1-25 blank items already created. > >Typically it looks like this, > > >> > Page > >> > |__ 1. > >> > |__ 2. > >> > |__ 3. ... > >> > |__ 25. > > >> > This is set to no context. Once I add a page I > >number it and create a context plus view, > > >> > Page 1 (Hide this task only in ToDo - context set to > >Page 1 - view set hide header show all tasks) View called > >Page1 > >> > |___ 1. Review Mark Forster Autofocus system - > >highlight important points > >> > |___ 2. Batch Process Email > >> > |___ 3. Process MLO Club emails > >> > |___ ..... > >> > |___ 25. Update Anti-Virus > > >> > Page 2 (Hide this task only in ToDo - context set to > >Page 2 - view set hide header show all tasks) View called > >Page2 > >> > |___ 1. Email DIT group about Autofocus system > >> > |___ 2. Reply to email on MLO group re Autofocus > >:) > >> > |___ 3. ........ > > >> > I just complete the tasks if they are done - highlight > >them if they are discarded. At the moment I find it > >easier to switch to the Outline view to add another > >entry to the last page. Then switch back to my existing > >page view. Though I am wondering about RTE I might > >just add them to the inbox and move them, not sure yet. > > >> > I have 5 active pages - 10 created. Using a blank > >template and replicating views it takes only a few > >seconds to add another page. As far as understand with > >the Autofocus system a page in itself can be completed. > >So eventually Page 1 could be removed etc. I think the > >general idea is to treat each page as it's own separate > >unit. > > >> > There is obviously a certain overhead in maintenance > >terms creating the pages but as mentioned utilising a > >portion of the outline as a template is quick. Just > >creating the views/contexts takes a little time but it is > >minimal if you use existing views. Probably works best > >to do so many pages in batches. > > >> > Now it did occur to me that some clever sole here - > >which there are many - might be able to work out an > >easy scripted/automated way of duplicating the same > >blank list and incrementing the page numbers in context > >and view? If that is possible of course. Ideally it > >would be nice to state create - pages 10 to 20, 20 to 30 > >or something along those lines. > > >> > All the best > > >> > Steve > > >> > ----- Original message ------------------------------ > >---------- > >> > From: Kudos <[email protected]> > >> > To: MyLifeOrganized > ><[email protected]> > > >> > Received: 06/01/2009 15:29:05 > >> > Subject: [MLO] Re: Mark Forster - Autofocus > >System - MLO requirements > > >> > >JD & olejorik, > > >> > >Surely it's a lot easier to separate out items. I > >think > >> > >what Steve > >> > >meant in his original post is something like this: > > >> > >Create parent items in the your Outline called 'Page > >1', > >> > >'Page 2' etc. > >> > >Set the To-Do list view to group by task parent > >first. > >> > >Set To-Do list filter to show All tasks (including > >> > >complete). > > >> > >Steve, thanks for the tip about AFTM.. I'm trying > >it > >> > >out on paper at > >> > >the moment.. Not sure if I can say goodbye to my > >To-Do > >> > >list in MLO but > >> > >we'll see! > > >> > >Jon > > >> > >On Jan 6, 10:06 am, JD <[email protected]> > >wrote: > >> > >> Hi Steve, > > >> > >> I signed up as a tester of the AF system and I > >started > >> > >today on paper > >> > >> (as suggested) and your post has dragged me into > >> > >thinking about it in > >> > >> electronic terms sooner than I expected it to. I > >mean > >> > >that in the > >> > >> nicest possible way :) Yes, I did start with Page > >1, > >> > >Page 2 lists, > >> > >> and bumped that up in my context list with an ! > >mark. > >> > >That way all the > >> > >> pages appear at the top of my context lists. The > >> > >strike through > >> > >> allows you to delete incomplete tasks and move > >them to > >> > >the last page > >> > >> via the copy function. As far as I can see, > >copying it > >> > >doesn't allow > >> > >> you to inherit the context, so I have to replace > >the > >> > >context when > >> > >> copying to the last page. The cool thing though is > >that > >> > >copying to the > >> > >> last page doesn't carry the strikethrough format > >> > >across, so your task > >> > >> appears neatly as an incomplete task at the end of > >> > >your list. > > >> > >> Basically, I intend to allow the screen to fill up > >with > >> > >tasks, perhaps > >> > >> limiting them to 30 or so, before creating a new > >> > >context page. > > >> > >> Just some of my initial thoughts on using MLO to > >work > >> > >the AF system. > > >> > >> Cheers/JD > > >> > >> On Jan 5, 11:28 pm, "Steve Wynn" > >> > ><[email protected]> > >> > >> wrote: > > >> > >> > Mark Forster has just unveiled his Autofocus > >system > >> > >- and to be perfectly honest it lends itself to MLO > >> > >quite well because it is just a long list. But here is > >the > >> > >issue as far as MLO is concerned - the long list > >needs to > >> > >be split into pages. The ideal tool cited is a > >notebook > >> > >with between 25 - 35 lines. You basically work on > >a > >> > >page at a time moving forwards and backwards. > > >> > >> > As far as MLO is concerned all I think that is > >> > >required is a way to segment a large list - ideally > >into > >> > >pages (similar in a way to Pocket Mod print). > >Perhaps > >> > >the page setup could be customised to display x > >number > >> > >of items - dependant on user specified line > >lengths/item > >> > >count. A simple forward and back page turn of > >some > >> > >description would also be required. Order should be > >> > >based on creation date/time. Another requirement > >is > >> > >the use of a highlighter to mark items as dismissed - > >this > >> > >can easily be achieved by the new colour coding . > > >> > >> > At the moment I can probably replicate the > >> > >requirements by creating separate Page 1, Page 2 > >type > >> > >lists with associated contexts and views - this may > >even > >> > >turn out to be the best option! But it would be > >simpler > >> > >if there was a way within MLO to create one big > >list > >> > >that was automatically split into pages. > > >> > >> > All the best > > >> > >> > Steve > > >> > >> > big_grin.gif > >> > >> > < 1KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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