I'm confused now because in my case selecting ActionFilter: All and the context assigned to my hidden tasks resulted in an empty view.
To get the hidden tasks to appear I had to add a Advance Filter (HideInToDo). On Feb 2, 3:00 pm, pottster <[email protected]> wrote: > Glad we're on the same page! > > "This is the line that confused me. Not mentioning "and in advanced > section ActiveAction set" implies you need to add in hidden tasks from > the ALL, not re-add them in if another filter later on removes them." > > Mentioned in my second post: - > > "For the view with the Folder but no subtasks use something like:- > > ACTION FILTER: ALL > ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (Caption contains 'evening') > > For the view with subtasks use something like:- > > ACTION FILTER: ALL > ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (HideInToDo)" > > I guess you missed it. Final quote from you... > > "Helps to read the entire post if you want to figure out what is > going on... " [or thread] > > ;-) > > On Feb 2, 2:31 pm, nschm873 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I agree, which is why if you look carefully at my earlier post I > > > make it clear that the HideInToDo DOES add in WHEN you are also using > > > an ActiveAction advanced filter and action filter ALL. > > > If you had made that clear I wouldn't have been confused. :) > > > > HideInToDo DOES add in. Namely, those tasks which have Hide the Branch > > > in To-Do selected (with Action Filter set to ALL). > > > This is the line that confused me. Not mentioning "and in advanced > > section ActiveAction set" implies you need to add in hidden tasks from > > the ALL, not re-add them in if another filter later on removes them. > > > In any event, we are on the same page now, thanks... > > > On Feb 2, 7:15 am, pottster <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Nschm873 > > > > "Helps to read the entire post if you want to figure out what is > > > going > > > on... " > > > > I agree, which is why if you look carefully at my earlier post I > > > make it clear that the HideInToDo DOES add in WHEN you are also using > > > an ActiveAction advanced filter and action filter ALL. > > > > "The Action Filter “All” does NOT filter “Hide in ToDo” tasks. It > > > doesn’t filter anything." > > > > I don't think anybody claimed different. See above. > > > > "However, in the “add advanced” section, a filter of “Active Action” > > > WILL filter out the “Hide in ToDo” tasks which is why you need to > > > “OR” > > > both of those filters..." > > > > Precisely, and thereby ADDIN the Hide in ToDo tasks. > > > > "Hope that helps ‘cause the two of you had me confused there for > > > little > > > while…" > > > > Hopefully, I have resolved your confusion for you ;-) > > > > Richard > > > > It may help to remember that the Action Filters of Active and > > > Available were set up to facilitate GTD style ToDo management and are > > > effectively preset filters which may or may not suit your approach to > > > task management. The more recently added advanced filter options have > > > now made it entirely possible (desirable even?) to build your own > > > filtered views from the ground up starting with an ALL action filter > > > (which just means an unfiltered view i.e. no presets applied). > > > > Without seeing your MLO data file, I would strongly suggest (also > > > suggested by Lisa and Nschm873 in earlier posts) that this is the way > > > for you to go rather than expend a lot of effort in extensive > > > adaptation of the other Action Filters. I know the Advanced Filters > > > aren't always intuitive but they are very powerful and a little trial > > > and error always gives you the result you want. > > > > Regards, > > > Ken > > > > On Feb 2, 12:45 am, nschm873 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>Thanks - your suggestion re using the Filter to display Hidden tasks > > > > >> with an 'All' filter applied worked fine (ie: hidden tasks which it > > > > >> seems are hidden by default in the All view can be made to > > > > >> display using the Filter). > > > > > Helps to read the entire post if you want to figure out what is going > > > > on... > > > > For a second there I thought you two had a different version of MLO > > > > than me. :) > > > > > The Action Filter “All” does NOT filter “Hide in ToDo” tasks. It > > > > doesn’t filter anything. If you have a view with just that filter you > > > > will see everything including the “Hide in ToDO” tasks in their > > > > alternate color. > > > > > However, in the “add advanced” section, a filter of “Active Action” > > > > WILL filter out the “Hide in ToDo” tasks which is why you need to “OR” > > > > both of those filters to see those alternate colored “hidden” tasks. > > > > > In any event you need to start with Action filter ALL to get > > > > everything and then filter out from there. Also play special > > > > attention to the check box “Include closed” since NOT having that > > > > checked WILL filter out those items. > > > > > Hope that helps ‘cause the two of you had me confused there for little > > > > while… > > > > > On Feb 1, 5:16 pm, Richard C <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks - your suggestion re using the Filter to display Hidden tasks > > > > > with an 'All' filter applied worked fine (ie: hidden tasks which it > > > > > seems are hidden by default in the All view can be made to display > > > > > using the Filter). However, the same technique doesn't work (I found > > > > > by accident) with an Available filter which is a bit confusing. > > > > > > Does anybody have a general rule for determining whether the Advance > > > > > filter can be used to display records which are otherwise hidden by > > > > > the choices made with regard to the Action filter, Contexts selected, > > > > > etc. > > > > > > On Jan 23, 6:20 pm, pottster <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > > To address your last comment first. > > > > > > > You can get tasks marked with 'Hide the branch in the ToDo' > > > > > > to appear in the 'All' view by adding the rule "HideInToDo is True" > > > > > > in > > > > > > the Advanced Filter. > > > > > > > Again, you can achieve the views you want by using the Advanced > > > > > > Filter > > > > > > and saving as custom views. > > > > > > > For the view with the Folder but no subtasks use something like:- > > > > > > > ACTION FILTER: ALL > > > > > > ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (Caption contains > > > > > > 'evening') > > > > > > > For the view with subtasks use something like:- > > > > > > > ACTION FILTER: ALL > > > > > > ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (HideInToDo) > > > > > > > Latter view assumes you have hidden subtasks in ToDo which is, I > > > > > > think, what you said you have done. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > On Jan 23, 5:14 pm, nschm873 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I do exactly what you are trying to do, I just don’t do it the > > > > > > > way you > > > > > > > are trying to solve it. > > > > > > > > There are three ways that I am aware of to “group” tasks into work > > > > > > > categories: you can define your categories as “projects,” you can > > > > > > > define them as “top level parents” or you can define them as > > > > > > > “contexts.” I use contexts. > > > > > > > > As I mentioned recently I have 6 work category contexts. You can > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > have a task in your main outline for each of these work > > > > > > > categories so > > > > > > > that subtasks under them inherit that context. > > > > > > > > I then have 6 individual ToDo views that only show tasks with that > > > > > > > context. My main active ToDo view also groups by context. When > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > are working on tasks by time you can simply open up a ToDo view > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > only that context category of tasks. > > > > > > > > Now I’ll give you an example of how I keep checklists from > > > > > > > cluttering > > > > > > > up my “active view”. I create a checklist task with all of the > > > > > > > items > > > > > > > under it. I mark the checklist as “complete subtasks in order” I > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > assign the checklist task the context “routine”. I then have a > > > > > > > ToDo > > > > > > > view for just the routine context that has an “available” instead > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > “active” ToDo view. > > > > > > > > So in my main active view I only see one checklist item (I usually > > > > > > > have a “start checklist” task at the top) and in the specific > > > > > > > routine > > > > > > > context ToDo view, I see all the items and I can do them in any > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > I desire. > > > > > > > > One other point, go into “Options” -> “To Do List format” and > > > > > > > change > > > > > > > the “task” -> “path” depth to 1. Then change the start and end > > > > > > > strings to “[“ and “]”. Then you will see just the parent task > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > path. That really helped me… > > > > > > > > And sorry but I answered your “all” question in your other post. > > > > > > > > On Jan 23, 8:24 am, Richard C <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ok. The broader context to this is that I have a number of > > > > > > > > 'Tasks' > > > > > > > > which are really folders (but can't be, because folders don't > > > > > > > > appear > > > > > > > > in the ToDoview) where I put lower priority tasks to consider > > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > at particular points in the day/week. > > > > > > > > > What I want is for this top level folder/task (eg 'Review early > > > > > > > > evening tasks') to appear in my generalviewwhich is a vanilla > > > > > > > > Active > > > > > > > > Tasksview(with the 'Include closed contexts' box not ticked. > > > > > > > > Therefore the key requirement for me (which I didn't mention > > > > > > > > previously) is that the solution needs to work with the Active > > > > > > > > filter > > > > > > > > because I don't want to fiddle about with the filter on thisview > > > > > > > > > To put it another way, I want a mechanism that allows me to > > > > > > > > mark a > > > > > > > > task with 'Do not make the children of this task active' > > > > > > > > > There are two reasons for wanting theparentto appear and not the > > > > > > > > children: > > > > > > > > a) so as not to clutter my mainviewwith the smaller, lower > > > > > > > > priority > > > > > > > > tasks which tend to end up in these folders > > > > > > > > b) so that I can tick the 'Review early evening tasks' (which > > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > recurring task) done without needing to navigate to the > > > > > > > > Outlineview > > > > > > > > (and then back again)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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