I'm confused now because in my case selecting ActionFilter: All and
the context assigned to my hidden tasks resulted in an empty view.

To get the hidden tasks to appear I had to add a Advance Filter
(HideInToDo).

On Feb 2, 3:00 pm, pottster <[email protected]> wrote:
> Glad we're on the same page!
>
> "This is the line that confused me.  Not mentioning "and in advanced
> section ActiveAction set" implies you need to add in hidden tasks from
> the ALL, not re-add them in if another filter later on removes them."
>
>  Mentioned in my second post: -
>
> "For the view with the Folder but no subtasks use something like:-
>
> ACTION FILTER: ALL
> ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (Caption contains 'evening')
>
> For the view with subtasks use something like:-
>
> ACTION FILTER: ALL
> ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (HideInToDo)"
>
> I guess you missed it. Final quote from you...
>
> "Helps to read the entire post if you want to figure out what is
> going on... " [or thread]
>
> ;-)
>
> On Feb 2, 2:31 pm, nschm873 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > >   I agree, which is why if you look carefully at my earlier post I
> > > make it clear that the HideInToDo DOES add in WHEN you are also using
> > > an ActiveAction advanced filter and action filter ALL.
>
> > If you had made that clear I wouldn't have been confused. :)
>
> > > HideInToDo DOES add in. Namely, those tasks which have Hide the Branch
> > > in To-Do selected (with Action Filter set to ALL).
>
> > This is the line that confused me.  Not mentioning "and in advanced
> > section ActiveAction set" implies you need to add in hidden tasks from
> > the ALL, not re-add them in if another filter later on removes them.
>
> > In any event, we are on the same page now, thanks...
>
> > On Feb 2, 7:15 am, pottster <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Nschm873
>
> > > "Helps to read the entire post if you want to figure out what is
> > > going
> > > on... "
>
> > >   I agree, which is why if you look carefully at my earlier post I
> > > make it clear that the HideInToDo DOES add in WHEN you are also using
> > > an ActiveAction advanced filter and action filter ALL.
>
> > > "The Action Filter “All” does NOT filter “Hide in ToDo” tasks.  It
> > > doesn’t filter anything."
>
> > >   I don't think anybody claimed different. See above.
>
> > > "However, in the “add advanced” section, a filter of “Active Action”
> > > WILL filter out the “Hide in ToDo” tasks which is why you need to
> > > “OR”
> > > both of those filters..."
>
> > >   Precisely, and thereby ADDIN the Hide in ToDo tasks.
>
> > > "Hope that helps ‘cause the two of you had me confused there for
> > > little
> > > while…"
>
> > >   Hopefully, I have resolved your confusion for you  ;-)
>
> > > Richard
>
> > > It may help to remember that the Action Filters of Active and
> > > Available were set up to facilitate GTD style ToDo management and are
> > > effectively preset filters which may or may not suit your approach to
> > > task management. The more recently added advanced filter options have
> > > now made it entirely possible (desirable even?) to build your own
> > > filtered views from the ground up starting with an ALL action filter
> > > (which just means an unfiltered view i.e. no presets applied).
>
> > > Without seeing your MLO data file, I would strongly suggest (also
> > > suggested by Lisa and Nschm873 in earlier posts) that this is the way
> > > for you to go rather than expend a lot of effort in extensive
> > > adaptation of the other Action Filters. I know the Advanced Filters
> > > aren't always intuitive but they are very powerful and a little trial
> > > and error always gives you the result you want.
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Ken
>
> > > On Feb 2, 12:45 am, nschm873 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > >>Thanks - your suggestion re using the Filter to display Hidden tasks
> > > > >> with an 'All' filter applied worked fine (ie:  hidden tasks which it
> > > > >> seems are hidden by default in the All view can be made to
> > > > >> display using the Filter).
>
> > > > Helps to read the entire post if you want to figure out what is going
> > > > on...
> > > > For a second there I thought you two had a different version of MLO
> > > > than me. :)
>
> > > > The Action Filter “All” does NOT filter “Hide in ToDo” tasks.  It
> > > > doesn’t filter anything.  If you have a view with just that filter you
> > > > will see everything including the “Hide in ToDO” tasks in their
> > > > alternate color.
>
> > > > However, in the “add advanced” section, a filter of “Active Action”
> > > > WILL filter out the “Hide in ToDo” tasks which is why you need to “OR”
> > > > both of those filters to see those alternate colored “hidden” tasks.
>
> > > > In any event you need to start with Action filter ALL to get
> > > > everything and then filter out from there.  Also play special
> > > > attention to the check box “Include closed” since NOT having that
> > > > checked WILL filter out those items.
>
> > > > Hope that helps ‘cause the two of you had me confused there for little
> > > > while…
>
> > > > On Feb 1, 5:16 pm, Richard C <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Thanks - your suggestion re using the Filter to display Hidden tasks
> > > > > with an 'All' filter applied worked fine (ie:  hidden tasks which it
> > > > > seems are hidden by default in the All view can be made to display
> > > > > using the Filter).  However, the same technique doesn't work (I found
> > > > > by accident) with an Available filter which is a bit confusing.
>
> > > > > Does anybody have a general rule for determining whether the Advance
> > > > > filter can be used to display records which are otherwise hidden by
> > > > > the choices made with regard to the Action filter,  Contexts selected,
> > > > > etc.
>
> > > > > On Jan 23, 6:20 pm, pottster <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Richard,
>
> > > > > > To address your last comment first.
>
> > > > > > You can get tasks marked with 'Hide the branch in the ToDo'
> > > > > > to appear in the 'All' view by adding the rule "HideInToDo is True" 
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > the Advanced Filter.
>
> > > > > > Again, you can achieve the views you want by using the Advanced 
> > > > > > Filter
> > > > > > and saving as custom views.
>
> > > > > > For the view with the Folder but no subtasks use something like:-
>
> > > > > > ACTION FILTER: ALL
> > > > > > ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (Caption contains 
> > > > > > 'evening')
>
> > > > > > For the view with subtasks use something like:-
>
> > > > > > ACTION FILTER: ALL
> > > > > > ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (HideInToDo)
>
> > > > > > Latter view assumes you have hidden subtasks in ToDo which is, I
> > > > > > think, what you said you have done.
>
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Ken
>
> > > > > > On Jan 23, 5:14 pm, nschm873 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I do exactly what you are trying to do, I just don’t do it the 
> > > > > > > way you
> > > > > > > are trying to solve it.
>
> > > > > > > There are three ways that I am aware of to “group” tasks into work
> > > > > > > categories:  you can define your categories as “projects,” you can
> > > > > > > define them as “top level parents” or you can define them as
> > > > > > > “contexts.”  I use contexts.
>
> > > > > > > As I mentioned recently I have 6 work category contexts.  You can 
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > have a task in your main outline for each of these work 
> > > > > > > categories so
> > > > > > > that subtasks under them inherit that context.
>
> > > > > > > I then have 6 individual ToDo views that only show tasks with that
> > > > > > > context.  My main active ToDo view also groups by context.  When 
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > are working on tasks by time you can simply open up a ToDo view 
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > only that context category of tasks.
>
> > > > > > > Now I’ll give you an example of how I keep checklists from 
> > > > > > > cluttering
> > > > > > > up my “active view”.  I create a checklist task with all of the 
> > > > > > > items
> > > > > > > under it.  I mark the checklist as “complete subtasks in order” I 
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > assign the checklist task the context “routine”.  I then have a 
> > > > > > > ToDo
> > > > > > > view for just the routine context that has an “available” instead 
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > “active” ToDo view.
>
> > > > > > > So in my main active view I only see one checklist item (I usually
> > > > > > > have a “start checklist” task at the top) and in the specific 
> > > > > > > routine
> > > > > > > context ToDo view, I see all the items and I can do them in any 
> > > > > > > order
> > > > > > > I desire.
>
> > > > > > > One other point, go into “Options” -> “To Do List format” and 
> > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > the “task” -> “path” depth to 1.  Then change the start and end
> > > > > > > strings to “[“ and “]”.  Then you will see just the parent task 
> > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > path.  That really helped me…
>
> > > > > > > And sorry but I answered your “all” question in your other post.
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 23, 8:24 am, Richard C <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Ok.  The broader context to this is that I have a number of 
> > > > > > > > 'Tasks'
> > > > > > > > which are really folders (but can't be, because folders don't 
> > > > > > > > appear
> > > > > > > > in the ToDoview) where I put lower priority tasks to consider 
> > > > > > > > doing
> > > > > > > > at particular points in the day/week.
>
> > > > > > > > What I want is for this top level folder/task (eg 'Review early
> > > > > > > > evening tasks') to appear in my generalviewwhich is a vanilla 
> > > > > > > > Active
> > > > > > > > Tasksview(with the 'Include closed contexts' box not ticked.
> > > > > > > > Therefore the key requirement for me (which I didn't mention
> > > > > > > > previously) is that the solution needs to work with the Active 
> > > > > > > > filter
> > > > > > > > because I don't want to fiddle about with the filter on thisview
>
> > > > > > > > To put it another way,   I want a mechanism that allows me to 
> > > > > > > > mark a
> > > > > > > > task with 'Do not make the children of this task active'
>
> > > > > > > > There are two reasons for wanting theparentto appear and not the
> > > > > > > > children:
> > > > > > > > a)  so as not to clutter my mainviewwith the smaller, lower 
> > > > > > > > priority
> > > > > > > > tasks which tend to end up in these folders
> > > > > > > > b)  so that I can tick the 'Review early evening tasks' (which 
> > > > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > recurring task) done without needing to navigate to the 
> > > > > > > > Outlineview
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