Glad we're on the same page! "This is the line that confused me. Not mentioning "and in advanced section ActiveAction set" implies you need to add in hidden tasks from the ALL, not re-add them in if another filter later on removes them."
Mentioned in my second post: - "For the view with the Folder but no subtasks use something like:- ACTION FILTER: ALL ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (Caption contains 'evening') For the view with subtasks use something like:- ACTION FILTER: ALL ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (HideInToDo)" I guess you missed it. Final quote from you... "Helps to read the entire post if you want to figure out what is going on... " [or thread] ;-) On Feb 2, 2:31 pm, nschm873 <[email protected]> wrote: > > I agree, which is why if you look carefully at my earlier post I > > make it clear that the HideInToDo DOES add in WHEN you are also using > > an ActiveAction advanced filter and action filter ALL. > > If you had made that clear I wouldn't have been confused. :) > > > HideInToDo DOES add in. Namely, those tasks which have Hide the Branch > > in To-Do selected (with Action Filter set to ALL). > > This is the line that confused me. Not mentioning "and in advanced > section ActiveAction set" implies you need to add in hidden tasks from > the ALL, not re-add them in if another filter later on removes them. > > In any event, we are on the same page now, thanks... > > On Feb 2, 7:15 am, pottster <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Nschm873 > > > "Helps to read the entire post if you want to figure out what is > > going > > on... " > > > I agree, which is why if you look carefully at my earlier post I > > make it clear that the HideInToDo DOES add in WHEN you are also using > > an ActiveAction advanced filter and action filter ALL. > > > "The Action Filter “All” does NOT filter “Hide in ToDo” tasks. It > > doesn’t filter anything." > > > I don't think anybody claimed different. See above. > > > "However, in the “add advanced” section, a filter of “Active Action” > > WILL filter out the “Hide in ToDo” tasks which is why you need to > > “OR” > > both of those filters..." > > > Precisely, and thereby ADDIN the Hide in ToDo tasks. > > > "Hope that helps ‘cause the two of you had me confused there for > > little > > while…" > > > Hopefully, I have resolved your confusion for you ;-) > > > Richard > > > It may help to remember that the Action Filters of Active and > > Available were set up to facilitate GTD style ToDo management and are > > effectively preset filters which may or may not suit your approach to > > task management. The more recently added advanced filter options have > > now made it entirely possible (desirable even?) to build your own > > filtered views from the ground up starting with an ALL action filter > > (which just means an unfiltered view i.e. no presets applied). > > > Without seeing your MLO data file, I would strongly suggest (also > > suggested by Lisa and Nschm873 in earlier posts) that this is the way > > for you to go rather than expend a lot of effort in extensive > > adaptation of the other Action Filters. I know the Advanced Filters > > aren't always intuitive but they are very powerful and a little trial > > and error always gives you the result you want. > > > Regards, > > Ken > > > On Feb 2, 12:45 am, nschm873 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>Thanks - your suggestion re using the Filter to display Hidden tasks > > > >> with an 'All' filter applied worked fine (ie: hidden tasks which it > > > >> seems are hidden by default in the All view can be made to > > > >> display using the Filter). > > > > Helps to read the entire post if you want to figure out what is going > > > on... > > > For a second there I thought you two had a different version of MLO > > > than me. :) > > > > The Action Filter “All” does NOT filter “Hide in ToDo” tasks. It > > > doesn’t filter anything. If you have a view with just that filter you > > > will see everything including the “Hide in ToDO” tasks in their > > > alternate color. > > > > However, in the “add advanced” section, a filter of “Active Action” > > > WILL filter out the “Hide in ToDo” tasks which is why you need to “OR” > > > both of those filters to see those alternate colored “hidden” tasks. > > > > In any event you need to start with Action filter ALL to get > > > everything and then filter out from there. Also play special > > > attention to the check box “Include closed” since NOT having that > > > checked WILL filter out those items. > > > > Hope that helps ‘cause the two of you had me confused there for little > > > while… > > > > On Feb 1, 5:16 pm, Richard C <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks - your suggestion re using the Filter to display Hidden tasks > > > > with an 'All' filter applied worked fine (ie: hidden tasks which it > > > > seems are hidden by default in the All view can be made to display > > > > using the Filter). However, the same technique doesn't work (I found > > > > by accident) with an Available filter which is a bit confusing. > > > > > Does anybody have a general rule for determining whether the Advance > > > > filter can be used to display records which are otherwise hidden by > > > > the choices made with regard to the Action filter, Contexts selected, > > > > etc. > > > > > On Jan 23, 6:20 pm, pottster <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > To address your last comment first. > > > > > > You can get tasks marked with 'Hide the branch in the ToDo' > > > > > to appear in the 'All' view by adding the rule "HideInToDo is True" in > > > > > the Advanced Filter. > > > > > > Again, you can achieve the views you want by using the Advanced Filter > > > > > and saving as custom views. > > > > > > For the view with the Folder but no subtasks use something like:- > > > > > > ACTION FILTER: ALL > > > > > ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (Caption contains 'evening') > > > > > > For the view with subtasks use something like:- > > > > > > ACTION FILTER: ALL > > > > > ADVANCED FILTER RULES: (ActiveAction) OR (HideInToDo) > > > > > > Latter view assumes you have hidden subtasks in ToDo which is, I > > > > > think, what you said you have done. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Ken > > > > > > On Jan 23, 5:14 pm, nschm873 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I do exactly what you are trying to do, I just don’t do it the way > > > > > > you > > > > > > are trying to solve it. > > > > > > > There are three ways that I am aware of to “group” tasks into work > > > > > > categories: you can define your categories as “projects,” you can > > > > > > define them as “top level parents” or you can define them as > > > > > > “contexts.” I use contexts. > > > > > > > As I mentioned recently I have 6 work category contexts. You can > > > > > > then > > > > > > have a task in your main outline for each of these work categories > > > > > > so > > > > > > that subtasks under them inherit that context. > > > > > > > I then have 6 individual ToDo views that only show tasks with that > > > > > > context. My main active ToDo view also groups by context. When you > > > > > > are working on tasks by time you can simply open up a ToDo view with > > > > > > only that context category of tasks. > > > > > > > Now I’ll give you an example of how I keep checklists from > > > > > > cluttering > > > > > > up my “active view”. I create a checklist task with all of the > > > > > > items > > > > > > under it. I mark the checklist as “complete subtasks in order” I > > > > > > then > > > > > > assign the checklist task the context “routine”. I then have a ToDo > > > > > > view for just the routine context that has an “available” instead of > > > > > > “active” ToDo view. > > > > > > > So in my main active view I only see one checklist item (I usually > > > > > > have a “start checklist” task at the top) and in the specific > > > > > > routine > > > > > > context ToDo view, I see all the items and I can do them in any > > > > > > order > > > > > > I desire. > > > > > > > One other point, go into “Options” -> “To Do List format” and change > > > > > > the “task” -> “path” depth to 1. Then change the start and end > > > > > > strings to “[“ and “]”. Then you will see just the parent task in > > > > > > the > > > > > > path. That really helped me… > > > > > > > And sorry but I answered your “all” question in your other post. > > > > > > > On Jan 23, 8:24 am, Richard C <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ok. The broader context to this is that I have a number of > > > > > > > 'Tasks' > > > > > > > which are really folders (but can't be, because folders don't > > > > > > > appear > > > > > > > in the ToDoview) where I put lower priority tasks to consider > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > at particular points in the day/week. > > > > > > > > What I want is for this top level folder/task (eg 'Review early > > > > > > > evening tasks') to appear in my generalviewwhich is a vanilla > > > > > > > Active > > > > > > > Tasksview(with the 'Include closed contexts' box not ticked. > > > > > > > Therefore the key requirement for me (which I didn't mention > > > > > > > previously) is that the solution needs to work with the Active > > > > > > > filter > > > > > > > because I don't want to fiddle about with the filter on thisview > > > > > > > > To put it another way, I want a mechanism that allows me to > > > > > > > mark a > > > > > > > task with 'Do not make the children of this task active' > > > > > > > > There are two reasons for wanting theparentto appear and not the > > > > > > > children: > > > > > > > a) so as not to clutter my mainviewwith the smaller, lower > > > > > > > priority > > > > > > > tasks which tend to end up in these folders > > > > > > > b) so that I can tick the 'Review early evening tasks' (which is > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > recurring task) done without needing to navigate to the > > > > > > > Outlineview > > > > > > > (and then back again) > > > > > > > > And I then want anotherview, which I can navigate to, to review > > > > > > > these tasks. > > > > > > > > It feels to me that this might not be an unusual requirement - > > > > > > > effectively to say to MLO: don't go any lower than this task when > > > > > > > considering what to make active in this branch of the tree (the > > > > > > > tasks > > > > > > > below here are just memoranda) > > > > > > > > And I still can't get tasks marked with 'Hide the branch in the > > > > > > > ToDo' > > > > > > > to appear in the 'All'view > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > On Jan 17, 5:02 pm, Lisa Stroyan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > At 11:06 AM 1/16/2010, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > >I have a number of MLO tasks which I use as place holders and > > > > > > > > >under > > > > > > > > >which I add various tasks to do at that particular time. > > > > > > > > > I'm sure there is a way to get this to do what you want, but if > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > tell us the goal, there might be a much cleaner implementation > > > > > > > > if you > > > > > > > > are willing to experiment. 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