To be honest, I'm still a bit confused about how do you actually "save" a tab... but here is what I just did just now:
1. File > New blank file 2. Save as "test" 3. Insert > "task01" enter 4. Insert > "task02" enter 5. Clicked on All Tasks view 6. Clicked on "+" "TestTab" 7. Selected "Active Actions" 8. Right-click on column header > tick "Importance" 9. Right-click on column header > tick "Urgency" The order now is: "view: Active Actions >>" then Importance then Due Date then Urgency then Icons then [star] 10. I now dragged Urgency past Due Date The order now is "view: Active Actions >>" then Importance then Urgency then Due Date then Icons then [star] 11. Click Workspace tab, then Click TestTab The order is unchanged and is still "view: Active Actions >>" then Importance then Urgency then Due Date then Icons then [star] 12. I now drag the star into the first position The order now is [star] then "view: Active Actions >>" then Importance then Urgency then Due Date then Icons 13. Click Workspace tab, then Click TestTab The order now is CHANGED to [star] then "view: Active Actions >>" then Importance then Due Date then Urgency then Icons i.e. Star is still in the new position but Due Date has jumped between Importance and Urgency. WHY? 14. I now drag Urgency past Due Date and the order is: [star] then "view: Active Actions >>" then Importance then Urgency then Due Date then Icons 15. I then clicked on Filter > then Save view Suddenly although the [star] is still in the new position but Due Date has jumped between Importance and Urgency. So just the simple act of saving the view as a new name seems to have caused Due Date to jump back between Importance and Importance. WHY? 16. Staying within the "Active Actions2" view selected, I closed the Filter pane and drag Uurgency back past Due Date. The order now is [star] then "view: Active Actions >>" then Importance then Urgency then Due Date then Icons 17. Right-click on TestTab2 (where I am still) with Active Actions2 selected. I click "Set as default for this tab" 18. Right-click on TestTab2 (where I am still) with Active Actions2 selected. I click "Lock default in this tab" 19. Click Workspace tab, then Click TestTab Suddenly although the [star] is still in the new position but Due Date has jumped between Importance and Urgency YET AGAIN! b-u-g ? On 7 December 2014 at 03:48, Dwight Arthur <[email protected]> wrote: > Here’s a sequence that I tried: > > 1. File>New to create a new database > > 2. Save as Test.ml > > 3. Add some tasks > > 4. Open the All Tasks view > > 5. create a new tab, called Test > > 6. open Next Actions by Project in the test tab > > 7. click on column header and add Importance and Urgency > > 8. drag Importance and Urgency to the right as columns 2 and 3 (after > caption) > > 9. save view as Nextx > > 10. click on My Workspace (first) tab. > > 11. Move some columns around in My workspace > > 12. Back to Test tab. Importance and Urgency are still in positions 2 and 3 > > 13. load All Tasks to test tab > > 14. load Nextx to text tab – Importance and Urgency are still in positions > 2 and 3 > > > > If I am understanding your issue correctly, I believe that the above test > shows that I’m not experiencing it. > > > > Could you document a series of steps like the above, starting with a > new/empty database, that demonstrate the issue? If so I will do my best to > replicate the problem and we can see what happens. > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *John Smith > *Sent:* Saturday, December 06, 2014 10:29 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [MLO] Re: Windows MLO: Columns in my Views keep reverting > - bug ? > > > > Hi > > > > Sorry I hate to differ Dwight but I just tried exactly what you suggest > and it simply isn't working as you describe. > > > > Yes, it seems that "Set as default for this tab" has the effect of setting > which view on that tab will appear when you double click on it, plus an > asterisk appears if you select a different view. > > > > And yes, it seems that "Lock default in this tab" has the effect of > stopping me from deleting the tab. Plus if I attempt to change view whilst > in that tab, then a new tab is opened. > > > > BUT none of the above seems to have the slightest effect on either the > sequence of the rows across the page relative to each other nor their > horizontal positions. > > > > I even tried getting all the tabs as I want them and closing the whole > program. But even then after you open the program again, the simple act of > clicking on different will after a whole break the columns. What is strange > is that immediately it breaks for one workspace any other workspace that > has the same view in it (albeit set as default and locked) will have the > column change in exactly the same way. So it does FEEL like the columns are > part of the views themselves, rather than being anything to do with the > tabs.... > > > > Nope as things stand nothing will keep the columns anything like how I > want them and until someone can tell me how to stop the column from leaping > back to what they were, seemingly with minds of their own, I say: > > > > b-u-g ! > > > > > > P.S. There are a couple unexpected things too: > > a) If a tab has been locked you can still change the columns - on a > temporary basis at least. > > b) "Sync Zoom with first tab" keeps unticking itself on all the tabs. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 December 2014 at 18:29, Dwight Arthur <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, John. Not a b-u-g imho. sorry. > > > > the thing you saved is a "view" which is a set of filters and such as > defined in the left panel. The xolumn selection is not accessible though > the left panel and is therefore not saved when you save a view. I am > oversimplifying but this is about 95% true. > > > > The thing that saves a view together with other information such as zoom > and selected columns is a workspace, also known as a tab. Try this: > > -Hit the [+] tab marker at the right of your tab list. A new tab appears. > > -Type in some nice name for the workspace. > > -you can click or clear the two "sync" checkboxes, does not matter to me > > - hit <enter> to save the workspace name > > - make sure that you have the view you want > > - make sure the column selection and zoom is what you want > > - right click the tab and select "set as default" > > - right click the tab and select "lock to default" > > - maybe you want to assign some nice icon and pin the tab. or not. > > now whenever you click this tab you will get the tasklist you just defined. > > > > btw this is probably a good time to tell you about persistent unsaved view > changes. > > when you edit a view the changes are not saved back to the view definition > but they remain in effect in the current workspace. If you open the same > view in a different workspace the changes will be absent but if you go back > to the workspace where you made the changes they are still there. You can > close MLO, reboot your computer and reopen MLO, the workspace will still be > there and your unsaved changes will still be present. You can edit system > views but you cannot save them. When you save a view the changes now appear > in all workspaces using the view. > > On Saturday, December 6, 2014 8:32:47 AM UTC-5, John Smith wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I have a problem with view columns that keep reverting. > > > > Seeming all of my Views (and one of them in particular) - are extremely > frustrating because the columns are not in the sequence and position that I > want. But every time I change them back to how I want them (and yes, then > hit "Save" at the bottom of the Filter panel on the left - either saving to > the same or a new name), then all it takes is for me to look an any other > View and then BANG the columns have reverted to where they were. [grrr] > > > > Fwiw, the two columns in question are "Importance" and "Urgency". The View > in question is mainly a rather complicated one that I constructed from > scratch, but the problem also affects other Views including the original > "Outline > All tasks" view that won't let me Save at all. (==> "You are not > allowed to change predefined views...") > > > > [Aside: Strangely although you aren't allowed to change the predefined > view you ARE allowed to change the columns aspect of the view whatever the > software says.] > > > > But the problem is not remotely consistent. It does seem to help somewhat > if you have two copies of the exactly same View next to each other on the > left hand column. But not for very long... And it may revert at any point. > Certainly as soon as you delete the spare one, the other one's columns > always seem to go wrong again! > > > > This definitely feels like a bug to me. (Ouch! Ironically as soon as I > wrote the word bug - if confirmed by act of God - I get a message to my > screen that MLO has actually crashed!) > > > > Any suggestions or best practices as to how to avoid the columns going > wrong? > > > > e.g. Should I delete all copies of my Views and rebuild them from scratch? > > e.g. Should I export all my data and import into a new blank MLO file? 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