Yes without any user control of layout TheBrain is absolutely hopeless IMO.

Obvious questions: 
- How do you get data between iMindQ and MLO (or dont you) ?
- Are there any plugins for MLO that let you do mindmaps with MLO data?

J


On Sunday, 23 August 2015 23:12:25 UTC+1, Majorbillion wrote:
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> The Brain, for all the hype and smooth graphics is a disaster. I could 
> rant all day about it. In the last version I used, I think in 2013 -- you 
> could not change the order of topics and you couldn't see the full map, 
> unless you totally turned offf all snap-to structure. Then it becomes 
> chaos. 
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> I've complained to them about this. They claim to be the most advanced 
> Mindmap out there, but in reality...its crude and inflexible. 
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> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 1:56 PM, John Smith <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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>> Interesting, Eddie
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>> Yes, for more complex projects there is definitely a role for 
>> mindmapping, because it allows you to see all the different areas of a 
>> project on one screen in 2D rather than in effect in 1D (or 1.5D if you 
>> include indentation!). 
>> For one thing this let's you see what parts of the project you may not 
>> have been paying enough attention to.
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>> HOWEVER for me it  mindmapping didnt work well for actual *task 
>> management* lists of such projects. I think it was just rather hard to 
>> see things like Next Task (nor next 2 or 3 tasks) within all my projects on 
>> a single screen.  Somehow with larger projects and too many tasks (say over 
>> 100 or so) the whole thing starts to melt down!
>> Possibly there is something clever one could do with filters in 
>> MindManager but I never discovered it!
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>> Regarding hierachies yes, being forced to start in a central point is 
>> exactly what I meant.
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>> What sounds brilliant on paper is https://www.thebrain.com. There is no 
>> central point at all and you just feed in the relationship and a sort of 
>> web / network / graph builds up. In many ways this is very much how the 
>> human mind works... in theory.
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>> However personally I absolutely loathed it in practice. The reason is 
>> that I,  like many people I guess, actually work in a series of mental 
>> pictures. And with TheBrain, every time you add something new, the whole 
>> damned thing wobbles & spins around all over the place, and the last 
>> photography your brain took is suddenly upside down/inside out/ all over 
>> the place. Absolute nightmare!
>>
>> Interestingly enough part of the reason I *do* quite like Mindjet's 
>> MindManager mindmapping tool is because as you add new things it only moves 
>> things around when it more or less has to. i.e. Things by default snap into 
>> intelligent positions, but without being in your face about it. And when it 
>> all moves around it still pretty much looks like the previous layout.
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>> [By analogy, for anyone how has worked with HTML you will appreciate how 
>> useful it is to be able to apply a tool to tidy out the code *when 
>> required* - correct formatting & indenting etc - *and yet* it's useful 
>> to be able stop the software from messing with your layouts unnecessarily. 
>> i.e. Most of the time we want the new version to look as much as possible 
>> like the old version so that we can find our way around! MindManager is 
>> quite good like that]
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>> I'd be interested to hear how you get on with TheBrain. 
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>> And please do let me know iof you think iMindQ is better than 
>> MindManager. (I have invested too much money into MindManager already but I 
>> see no long term future with them mainly because they are WAY too expensive 
>> for the non-corporates SMEs like moi... so I am on the looking for new a 
>> new tool of comparable power and sophistication.)
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>> J
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>> On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 8:42:33 PM UTC+1, Majorbillion wrote:
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>>> Hi John:
>>>
>>> To answer your question about strict hierarchy, iMindQ is set up for 
>>> project management and ToDo lists, but I would find it cumbersome because 
>>> within one Mindmap, there is only one central starting point. So, if I 
>>> interpret your question correctly, the answer is "yes."
>>>
>>> That is why can't be a iMindQ or MLO purist -- for now at least. 
>>>
>>> But with most big projects I do in MLO, I come to a point where there 
>>> are many interelationships and scenarios. MLO becomes abstract and 
>>> convoluted. Everything is suddenly crystal clear when I envision it in 
>>> iMindQ.
>>>
>>> Eddie 
>>>
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