Thanks I will try this approach for now. I need to update my tasks first and move a bunch to next up. I missed a few reviews and I have way too many active tasks now. I don't think any view will help until I can get the number under control.
On Saturday, June 1, 2019 at 8:59:54 AM UTC-4, wa wa wrote: > > What about using advanced view to show the tasks in a date range? I have a > view set up for the next 7 and 30 days. > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 2:48:13 PM UTC-5, Susannah wrote: >> >> Thanks Dwight for the explanation. That all makes sense. I am more just >> looking for a more visual display of my tasks. If I need something more >> than that I would use Microsoft project. In list views I have a really >> hard time seeing how badly I am over scheduling myself on one day and >> underscheduling on the next. I use the word scheduling loosely here. If I >> had something like David Timpe mentioned I think that would help >> tremendously to better see my work. I have tried using Kanban flow along >> with MLO and it works pretty well except for having things in more than one >> place. >> Susannah >> >> >> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-4, Dwight wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Susannah, your suggestion of providing a *Gantt chart view *in MLO >>> has been popular. I'd like to discuss *some of the factors that could >>> make this into a high-cost low-benefit feature.* >>> >>> If all you were looking for is a task list with horizontal bars showing >>> start date and due date, that's probably available at a moderate cost. But >>> I suspect that most if not all of the people asking for this are actually >>> hoping for much more - I believe that you will be disappointed with a >>> simple Gantt view unless MLO also provides project management features such >>> as resource balancing and dynamic rescheduling. >>> >>> Let's start with dates. If you follow anything like the GTD methodology >>> for task management, you are not using MLO's Start and Due dates for >>> anything like the date you plan to start and finish the task. Start is the >>> earliest date on which you could start the task, and Due is the date after >>> which the task can no longer be done or is no longer meaningful. For >>> example, if I want to buy tickets to the opera, I might put the date they >>> go on sale as the start and the date of the performance as the Due - If I >>> have not bought them yet on the day after the performance there's no point >>> in doing it now. So maybe they are on sale for three months, that does not >>> mean that the duration of this task is three man-months. Also, you could >>> have a large and complex set of interrelated tasks with complex >>> dependencies, some of which could be running behind schedule, and none of >>> that makes the tickets go on sale any sooner or causes a delay in the >>> performance. MLO is very good at handling dependencies but it does so by >>> managing the active/inactive status of each task. Suppose I am buying the >>> tickets for a group who want to go to the opera together, so I have to put >>> in my order for the tickets, confirm the they are available, then collect >>> money from all of the people, pay for and pick up the tickets, and >>> distribute them. Suppose that takes a month to complete. That means that I >>> really should buy them no later than a month before the performance. MS >>> Project would reschedule the "buy tickets" task to be due a month before >>> the performance. MLO cannot do that because MLO will not reschedule your >>> tasks for you. >>> >>> In order to handle this simple situation MLO would need four dates >>> instead of two - you would add Begin and End which would reflect the plan >>> for when you will actually do this task. MLO would be free to reset the >>> begin and end dates to reflect your dependencies. >>> >>> You would also need to know the actual effort required for each task, >>> usually measured in hours (different from the Effort field, which gets a >>> number between 0 and 100, not clear if it's hours, days or just a relative >>> scale where 100 means "very big"). And you would need to know how many >>> hours per day you have available to work on tasks like this. And which days >>> you work and which days you don't work, like weekends and holidays, >>> including obscure local holidays. You might need to also track all of the >>> other things you spend your work hours on, and all of the people who you >>> will need to help you and their availability. If there are scheduled >>> resources, like conference rooms or bulldozers you may need some way of >>> knowing when and whether they are available. >>> >>> Once MLO can handle all of this, then you need to enter all of this >>> information, and even worse, you have to maintain it - when bad weather or >>> a broken tool or a long phone call from your Mom throw you off schedule you >>> have to remember to update your project plan and see whether the end date >>> changed. That's why most projects that use project management tools >>> effectively have a full time project administrator (different from the >>> project manager) in charge of creating and maintaining project plans and >>> spending little or no time actually working to complete the project. A >>> single person trying to manage tasks on a project management tool usually >>> has an inevitable crisis where you have to choose whether to try as hard as >>> you can to get the project done on time and forget updating the project >>> plan, or spend your time keeping the plan accurate and not actually >>> complete the project. >>> >>> For your nice to have feature of finding the critical path, a MLO would >>> need further enhancement. >>> >>> And this brings me to my primary concern. MLO is in my opinion the >>> absolute top of the line in task management apps with tools and features >>> that bring power and flexibility seen nowhere else. If the MLO developers >>> were to invest in all the things described above, the result would be a >>> passable but primitive project management tool missing most of the advanced >>> features found in the many currently available project management apps, >>> like time tracking to feed payroll, or calculating the cost per value added >>> ratio for each task to allow outsourcing or elimination of nonproductive >>> tasks. There would be little reason for anyone seeking a project management >>> tool to select MLO over the established project management apps, and not >>> much chance that the MLO developers could ever recover their investment in >>> these enhancements. >>> >>> -Dwight >>> >>> On 5/22/2019 7:19 AM, Susannah wrote: >>> >>> Me too on the Gantt view >>> I thought there used to be one on the phone app but I don't see it >>> anymore. Would love one on the desktop version. Would also like a kanban >>> board view but Gantt would be first choice. >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 8:04:35 AM UTC-4, Costa G wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> Suggested feature: Gantt chart graphical representation of projects. >>>> In my opinion, MLO has all the infrastructure to implement this: >>>> - Task list >>>> - Dependencies >>>> - Due date >>>> >>>> Tasks do not have to be arranged into hierarchy according to their >>>> dependency. >>>> >>>> What needs to be changed: >>>> Commonly on MSproject, projects are constructed by defining the >>>> following basic data: >>>> 1. Kickoff event >>>> 2. Dependencies between tasks >>>> 3. Duration of each task. >>>> >>>> The most important results of this feature are: >>>> 1. A graphical representation of the project's structure, - the Gantt >>>> chart. >>>> 2. The outcome, - the project's end date, given the task durations and >>>> dependencies. >>>> 3. (nice to have: ) Calculation of the critical path - branch of the >>>> project which is the limiting factor to the completion date. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks and hope to see this come to life! >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/98e3da94-b8c7-4808-865d-ca3b851bc336%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/98e3da94-b8c7-4808-865d-ca3b851bc336%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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