If you are using mobile version, there is a today view to help visualize tasks whether that day is over or under scheduling.
Regards, LEW On Monday, 3 June 2019 17:46:55 UTC+8, Susannah wrote: > > Thanks I will try this approach for now. I need to update my tasks first > and move a bunch to next up. I missed a few reviews and I have way too > many active tasks now. I don't think any view will help until I can get > the number under control. > > On Saturday, June 1, 2019 at 8:59:54 AM UTC-4, wa wa wrote: >> >> What about using advanced view to show the tasks in a date range? I have >> a view set up for the next 7 and 30 days. >> >> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 2:48:13 PM UTC-5, Susannah wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Dwight for the explanation. That all makes sense. I am more >>> just looking for a more visual display of my tasks. If I need something >>> more than that I would use Microsoft project. In list views I have a >>> really hard time seeing how badly I am over scheduling myself on one day >>> and underscheduling on the next. I use the word scheduling loosely here. >>> If I had something like David Timpe mentioned I think that would help >>> tremendously to better see my work. I have tried using Kanban flow along >>> with MLO and it works pretty well except for having things in more than one >>> place. >>> Susannah >>> >>> >>> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-4, Dwight wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, Susannah, your suggestion of providing a *Gantt chart view *in MLO >>>> has been popular. I'd like to discuss *some of the factors that could >>>> make this into a high-cost low-benefit feature.* >>>> >>>> If all you were looking for is a task list with horizontal bars showing >>>> start date and due date, that's probably available at a moderate cost. But >>>> I suspect that most if not all of the people asking for this are actually >>>> hoping for much more - I believe that you will be disappointed with a >>>> simple Gantt view unless MLO also provides project management features >>>> such >>>> as resource balancing and dynamic rescheduling. >>>> >>>> Let's start with dates. If you follow anything like the GTD methodology >>>> for task management, you are not using MLO's Start and Due dates for >>>> anything like the date you plan to start and finish the task. Start is the >>>> earliest date on which you could start the task, and Due is the date after >>>> which the task can no longer be done or is no longer meaningful. For >>>> example, if I want to buy tickets to the opera, I might put the date they >>>> go on sale as the start and the date of the performance as the Due - If I >>>> have not bought them yet on the day after the performance there's no point >>>> in doing it now. So maybe they are on sale for three months, that does not >>>> mean that the duration of this task is three man-months. Also, you could >>>> have a large and complex set of interrelated tasks with complex >>>> dependencies, some of which could be running behind schedule, and none of >>>> that makes the tickets go on sale any sooner or causes a delay in the >>>> performance. MLO is very good at handling dependencies but it does so by >>>> managing the active/inactive status of each task. Suppose I am buying the >>>> tickets for a group who want to go to the opera together, so I have to put >>>> in my order for the tickets, confirm the they are available, then collect >>>> money from all of the people, pay for and pick up the tickets, and >>>> distribute them. Suppose that takes a month to complete. That means that I >>>> really should buy them no later than a month before the performance. MS >>>> Project would reschedule the "buy tickets" task to be due a month before >>>> the performance. MLO cannot do that because MLO will not reschedule your >>>> tasks for you. >>>> >>>> In order to handle this simple situation MLO would need four dates >>>> instead of two - you would add Begin and End which would reflect the plan >>>> for when you will actually do this task. MLO would be free to reset the >>>> begin and end dates to reflect your dependencies. >>>> >>>> You would also need to know the actual effort required for each task, >>>> usually measured in hours (different from the Effort field, which gets a >>>> number between 0 and 100, not clear if it's hours, days or just a relative >>>> scale where 100 means "very big"). And you would need to know how many >>>> hours per day you have available to work on tasks like this. And which >>>> days >>>> you work and which days you don't work, like weekends and holidays, >>>> including obscure local holidays. You might need to also track all of the >>>> other things you spend your work hours on, and all of the people who you >>>> will need to help you and their availability. If there are scheduled >>>> resources, like conference rooms or bulldozers you may need some way of >>>> knowing when and whether they are available. >>>> >>>> Once MLO can handle all of this, then you need to enter all of this >>>> information, and even worse, you have to maintain it - when bad weather or >>>> a broken tool or a long phone call from your Mom throw you off schedule >>>> you >>>> have to remember to update your project plan and see whether the end date >>>> changed. That's why most projects that use project management tools >>>> effectively have a full time project administrator (different from the >>>> project manager) in charge of creating and maintaining project plans and >>>> spending little or no time actually working to complete the project. A >>>> single person trying to manage tasks on a project management tool usually >>>> has an inevitable crisis where you have to choose whether to try as hard >>>> as >>>> you can to get the project done on time and forget updating the project >>>> plan, or spend your time keeping the plan accurate and not actually >>>> complete the project. >>>> >>>> For your nice to have feature of finding the critical path, a MLO would >>>> need further enhancement. >>>> >>>> And this brings me to my primary concern. MLO is in my opinion the >>>> absolute top of the line in task management apps with tools and features >>>> that bring power and flexibility seen nowhere else. If the MLO developers >>>> were to invest in all the things described above, the result would be a >>>> passable but primitive project management tool missing most of the >>>> advanced >>>> features found in the many currently available project management apps, >>>> like time tracking to feed payroll, or calculating the cost per value >>>> added >>>> ratio for each task to allow outsourcing or elimination of nonproductive >>>> tasks. There would be little reason for anyone seeking a project >>>> management >>>> tool to select MLO over the established project management apps, and not >>>> much chance that the MLO developers could ever recover their investment in >>>> these enhancements. >>>> >>>> -Dwight >>>> >>>> On 5/22/2019 7:19 AM, Susannah wrote: >>>> >>>> Me too on the Gantt view >>>> I thought there used to be one on the phone app but I don't see it >>>> anymore. Would love one on the desktop version. Would also like a kanban >>>> board view but Gantt would be first choice. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 8:04:35 AM UTC-4, Costa G wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> Suggested feature: Gantt chart graphical representation of projects. >>>>> In my opinion, MLO has all the infrastructure to implement this: >>>>> - Task list >>>>> - Dependencies >>>>> - Due date >>>>> >>>>> Tasks do not have to be arranged into hierarchy according to their >>>>> dependency. >>>>> >>>>> What needs to be changed: >>>>> Commonly on MSproject, projects are constructed by defining the >>>>> following basic data: >>>>> 1. Kickoff event >>>>> 2. Dependencies between tasks >>>>> 3. Duration of each task. >>>>> >>>>> The most important results of this feature are: >>>>> 1. A graphical representation of the project's structure, - the Gantt >>>>> chart. >>>>> 2. The outcome, - the project's end date, given the task durations and >>>>> dependencies. >>>>> 3. (nice to have: ) Calculation of the critical path - branch of the >>>>> project which is the limiting factor to the completion date. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and hope to see this come to life! >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/98e3da94-b8c7-4808-865d-ca3b851bc336%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/98e3da94-b8c7-4808-865d-ca3b851bc336%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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