I haven't used them either, Dawn, just on myself (over gel enhancements) and what I really want to know is what you want to know. They say it takes 15 minutes to soak off the polish. At that point the 2 layers of clear base gel is still on the nail....soak another 15 minutes to remove that completely. They honestly aren't enhancements. Just 5 layers of "polish" If I EVER get back to work, I'll let you know how I fare!! Marsha McDonald Rubino Gimme Nails @Red Union Salon 713 E. 13th St. Upper Suite Whitefish, Montana [email protected]
________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 8:15:14 AM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Gel question and Melody Marsha , I havent used the soakables. Some of this seems like a good idea but the practacle part stinks. Most of the people that have natural nails do not want any artifical enhancement they just want polish to stay forever<LOL> The whole time factor of soaking ??? where does that fit in. They dont want to come early and sit to do it. And if you dont have the soak off kind the whole filing thing is as much work as a fill. Which takes more time and what to charge for that. OH in a perfect world somewhere..... dawn [email protected] Lancaster,PA -----Original Message----- From: Marsha Rubino <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 9:23 pm Subject: NailTech:: Re: Gel question and Melody I have been using gel polish for about 4 years, Dawn. My concern is with the soakable OPI product. We were instructed to do our fill (I do only gels) THEN apply 2 coats (one thin & one medium) of clear soakable gel base before applying the soakable polish. I don't know if the soakable gel polish will adhere properly to my Brisa (non-soakable) builder gel. I'll test it on myself. Actually, the only reason I would use it on a gel wearer would be because they want the OPI polish color! I have it on myself right now....I wish I would have thought to skip the soakable gel base when I did my own. Thanks for the reply!! Marsha McDonald Rubino Gimme Nails @Red Union Salon 713 E. 13th St. Upper Suite Whitefish, Montana [email protected] ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 2:39:20 PM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Gel question and Melody Marsha, I get $10. extra on gel or Acrylic for gel polish. Toes,too 10 extra. It really does not take anymore time, you are charging for time knowledge and product. On acrylic or gel, do your regular fill, you get to the finish file and DO NOT buff, Gel needs a rough not shinny surface to adhere. just dust the nails and apply gel polish one finger at a time back and forth under the light Next a coat of IBD's Intense seal and cure for 3 min. DONE. The only time you would have to apply clear gel first is on natural nails as a base to get the gel polish to adhere. That is usually only 1 coat. As for top coat if you are using a sealer like Intense seal that is it, nothing else needed. You would only need two coats of gel-polish if the color is too sheer for what you want. The sealer stays shinny and there should be no need for top coat of any kind. DO you have someone Family or friend that you can play and practice on? It is great and there is no way to smudge anything. Good luck Dawn [email protected] Lancaster,PA -----Original Message----- From: Marsha Rubino <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:02 pm Subject: NailTech:: Re: Gel question and Melody I have not been working for the past month and a half, Angie. I took the class and the suggestion from the educator, I believe, was $30-$40. I will charge $30 which is $10 more than my basic manicure. I haven't experimented with them yet, so I don't know if you must follow their directions exactly. The process seems very time consuming if they are used over gel enhancements and I don't know if it's worth it. After the gel fill, you apply the gel polish using the same method as for natural nails. (2 clear gel coats, at least 2 polish coats, & topcoat) It's the 2 additional clear gel coats that is the problem and I don't know if they are really needed. Anybody else know? Marsha McDonald Rubino Gimme Nails @Red Union Salon 713 E. 13th St. Upper Suite Whitefish, Montana [email protected] ________________________________ From: Angela R Wingerter <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 8:49:02 AM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Gel question and Melody Marsha, Would you mind sharing how much you charge to apply the gel polish on natural nails, toenails, and over gel or ac? I have just got some in and I have no idea what to charge. Angie Wingerter ________________________________ From: Marsha Rubino <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 11:39:26 PM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Gel question and Melody Shannon....I recently took the OPI Axxium Gel class, mostly because they demo'd their soak off gel polishes which just came out. (I am a Brisa user) I am very impressed with their gel polish (soakable). What I learned with their soakable gel is that you must use clear soakable gel as the first layer on the natural nail. Their soakable gel does not strengthen natural nails. If your natural nails are weak they need to be filed to 1/8" length or they are subject to break. If your nails are strong, then you can wear them longer. I am impressed with the fact that the topcoat on my nails is still shiney, showing no wear or fine scratches, after more than 2 weeks. I haven't tried any other manufacturers soakable gel polish to date. I want to be able to offer my clients their favorite OPI polish colors in gel! You can certainly file off this gel polish by hand....and gel is much easier to file away than is acrylic! Marsha McDonald Rubino Gimme Nails @Red Union Salon 713 E. 13th St. Upper Suite Whitefish, Montana [email protected] ________________________________ From: Jennifer Hopping <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 5:24:08 PM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Gel question and Melody Brisa You have to file off its not soakable. --- On Sun, 2/1/09, Shannon Kuharik <[email protected]> wrote: From: Shannon Kuharik <[email protected]> Subject: NailTech:: Gel question and Melody To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 3:34 PM Hi everyone, One more question on gels (I know there has been a lot of talk on these. Sorry) I am a new tech (less than 1 year) I am still learning acrylics and want to learn gel. I have heard about the soakable gels. Does anyone know if the Brisa system is soakable or do you have to efile. I have never taken a class on efiles so until I do I would feel more comfortable learning by hand filing and soaking off. Thanks. Melody, As far as the reflexology, no you will not learn by a book. I would try to find a school nearby you that you could take the course. If there is no one around you I do know they have reflexology through distance learning where they send you tapes to learn off of. You could also find a reflexologist and get a session just to see what the pressure is and how their technique is. Any more questions please email me privately as I do not want to get off topic and get in trouble with the group :) Shannon K. Shannon Kuharik Certified Reflexologist Licensed Nail Technician www.relaxingfeetreflexology.com (440) 238-5581 Try an organic manicure and predicure today! Only $22.00 for a manicure and $42.00 for a predicure which includes reflexology with the foot massage! ________________________________ Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. ________________________________ Great Deals on Dell Laptops. 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