Ah Maggie, think what the issue here is if there IS a contract. Just 
like you said these companies have iron clad contracts, spend big 
bucks on attorneys, but do salon owners or stylist/techs?

It would depend of how the IC was treated vs how she was paid.  If 
they are telling her how, when, what, why etc. and is in control of 
her profit and loss, then there needs to be a contract, this is where 
salon owners screw new girls, there has to be a contract.

Now my opinion is this sounds like an excellent opportunity for a new 
tech and she should do it if she has checked other options 
out.  Build a clientele first, learn the ropes.  So Maggie, keep your 
hair in, I agree to a point, but leary of commission salons without 
contracts.  diana from indiana


At 04:37 PM 7/4/2009, you wrote:
>First: an independent contractor MAY be paid on commission. This is 
>one of the biggest misinformations that gets tossed around in our 
>industry that makes me have to take a moment to step away from the 
>computer so I can pull out some hair and jump up and down and 
>scream... thus causing my dogs no small amount of anxiety. And since 
>one of the dogs tends to get gassy when he's anxious, it would be 
>really really beneficial if we could all just understand and accept 
>that it IS POSSIBLE to be an independent contractor and still be 
>paid on commission. (Think Tupperware, Avon, Partylite, Arbonne, 
>Mary Kay, etc-- ALL paid by commission, ALL independent contractors. 
>And don't think those companies haven't coughed up the attorney fees 
>over the decades to make sure they have iron clad contracts!)
>
>Second: a 65/35% commission seems reasonable for a furnished station 
>where the tech still supplies her own product and implements. Plus 
>$25 a week (essentially) for the receptionist-- could be worse.
>
>How MUCH are they going to charge her for use of the credit card 
>processing machine/service?
>
>And WHAT fees are they waiving that will be reinstated?
>
>Will this salon keep her busy? Is she likely to build a clientelle 
>there? What is the up side of taking this job?
>
>The deal alone doesn't seem unfair, but whether or not it's a smart 
>choice depends on what her other options are. Also, where is this 
>tech located? What is the market like in that area? What are prices 
>for services in the area? What is the demand for services in the 
>area? Where is her current skill set? And what is typical booth rent 
>going for and are there other commission salons to choose from?
>
>
>Maggie Franklin: Attitudes Salon; Visalia, CA
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>
>
>--- On Sat, 7/4/09, shannon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>From: shannon <[email protected]>
>Subject: NailTech:: Re: independent contractor
>To: [email protected]
>Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 8:00 AM
>
>sounds like commission to me not indepent contractor.
>
>Shannon Arnold
>Flip Flop Beauty Shop
>Coopers Plains, NY
>[email protected]
>
>--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Shannon Kuharik 
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>From: Shannon Kuharik <[email protected]>
>Subject: NailTech:: independent contractor
>To: [email protected]
>Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 6:13 PM
>
>Hey everyone. Question for those that have been in the industry. I 
>was talking to a new nail tech fresh from school. She was telling me 
>she got a job as an independent contractor for a brand new salon. 
>She can use their tables, towels, etc... but has to use her own 
>lotion, cuticle oils, implements,etc.. They are giving her 65% and 
>they are taking 35% BUT then they are charging her $100.00 a month 
>for a receptionist fee AND charging her to use their credit card 
>machine AND said that in a few months they are reinstating other 
>fees they are waiving because she is new. I told her that was a rip 
>off. What are everyone's thoughts on this? I just want her to be 
>treated fair since she is new and does not know any different.
>
>Shannon Kuharik
>
>
>
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